[dev1102] Meteor had better be obtainable!

[Byrth]

There are several problems with implementation here:
1) Most Black Mages will never obtain Meteor, given the current drop rate and source.
2) You need most Black Mages (essentially all the ones you bring to an event) to have Meteor in order for it to be useful.
3a) Most linkshells don't do content that would inspire them to bring enough Black Mages right now to make this spell superior to Thundaja.
3b) It is only useful in Legion.
4) There hasn't been a real reason to have a "good BLM" for the last year+, and most people have spent their time collecting finery for other jobs. Thus your best players are often better off on those other jobs, which means you would have to give meteor to worse players in order for it to ever see any use.

[Mahoro]

There are several problems with implementation here:
1) Most Black Mages will never obtain Meteor, given the current drop rate and source.
2) You need most Black Mages (essentially all the ones you bring to an event) to have Meteor in order for it to be useful.
3a) Most linkshells don't do content that would inspire them to bring enough Black Mages right now to make this spell superior to Thundaja.
3b) It is only useful in Legion.
4) There hasn't been a real reason to have a "good BLM" for the last year+, and most people have spent their time collecting finery for other jobs. Thus your best players are often better off on those other jobs, which means you would have to give meteor to worse players in order for it to ever see any use.

Don't really agree with #4. BLM remains a standard at most events, and I think your generalization about "most people" is because DD jobs are more popular as a whole. The difference between mediocre BLMs and good BLMs is quite noticeable at something like Provenance Watcher and Kalasutrax and other Naraka. I will leave out the obvious benefit in Legion since you addressed that in 3b (to which I mostly agree although I can think of a few other situations in which it would be useful).

[Helel]

Don't really agree with #4. BLM remains a standard at most events, and I think your generalization about "most people" is because DD jobs are more popular as a whole. The difference between mediocre BLMs and good BLMs is quite noticeable at something like Provenance Watcher and Kalasutrax and other Naraka. I will leave out the obvious benefit in Legion since you addressed that in 3b (to which I mostly agree although I can think of a few other situations in which it would be useful).

BLM may be standard but gear is completely irrelevant, which is Byrth's point. BLM is only useful for procs. If your BLM is doing "good" damage on kalasutrax and PW (relative to other jobs) then there is something seriously wrong with your alliance.

[Mahoro]

BLM may be standard but gear is completely irrelevant, which is Byrth's point. BLM is only useful for procs. If your BLM is doing "good" damage on kalasutrax and PW (relative to other jobs) then there is something seriously wrong with your alliance.

Mentioned Prov Watcher and Naraka for Stun. Appropriate staff, dark magic gear, etc. Didn't mention total dmg.

[Teraniku]

So it seems that changes to both spirits, and wyverns have been put on hold because of Meteor.
If it turns out that Meteor is then only obtainable as a 0.0000001% drop from final VW chapter, I'm sure I won't be the only person feeling somewhat annoyed, and I hope that the dev team will realise that they've been wasting their time making sure that a spell that 6 people can cast will work properly, if it takes a month to see 6 people that can cast it that are even on the same server!

Maybe I'm just being pessamistic, but we can only go on past performances.

*cough* Arise *cough*

Probably the same availability imo

[Babekeke]

*cough* Arise *cough*

Probably the same availability imo

But when 1 WHM in your LS gets Arise, it's useful.

[Elexia]

They damn well should have made it a quest. BLM talks to Shantotto of the past somewhere (not like SE cares for consistency anymore), she drops a meteor on you, you're left with a scar, you can now use meteor when you activate Manawell, Elemental Seal or during Manafont.

That would be much better because then it wouldn't be rare for the sake of rare. Sure it's iconic and everything, but it's not worth all of the logs you get in the process.

[Alhanelem]

Hey guess what guys, meteor isn't obtainable.

[Sparthos]

Meteor and Arise also drop in Legion according to SE.

Not that anyone is getting past wave 2 anytime soon but the carrot is on the stick.

[Alkimi]

I always do good damage on Voidwatch NMs on BLM. We usually have 2-3 BLMs and assign them different spells, once we hit a HV trigger I'll chain-nuke Thundaja > Thunder V > Burst II > Firaja > Fire V and then go back to looking for triggers.

That's 20k damage in about 20 seconds, hardly irrelevant and there's nothing wrong with our alliances. There's nothing wrong with BLMs adding some extra damage.