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    Player Elexia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midorikaze View Post
    I still think there should be a way for non-Japanese speaking players to type in Japanese characters (hiragana/katakana) to some extent. I am teaching myself Japanese and would like to be able to communicate more efficiently. They are able to type in roman alphabet as well as their own language; it should go both ways. How else are the language barriers going to be broken down? Personally, to me, the auto-translate is horribly inadequate and needs to be updated. :/
    SE didn't want to pay the licensing fee for western clients otherwise it would be possible.
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    Player Midorikaze's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    SE didn't want to pay the licensing fee for western clients otherwise it would be possible.
    This makes me sad, since the divide will continue to exist until something is done about it...I am sure the licensing is affordable with the $$$ SE is making off this game. (Then again, I don't know the cost either so who am I to judge^^) Also my NA client displays kanji and kana perfectly, so an IME should not be that difficult to add. And I have already heard the argument about us potentially abusing their language by getting this ability...Who is to say the opposite does not also happen? Where is the trust and equality, I wonder...

    Wishful thinking, perhaps. But it would be nice...
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    Last edited by Midorikaze; 04-20-2012 at 02:47 AM.

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    Most JP, while being taught english and even use a few words of it in playing video games, are not FLUENT in English. They might know enough for a conversation, but if you're not confident in your ability, you don't use it for risk of offending the other person. I studied French, and I live in an area where a lof of french speaking people visit, but I never actually speak in french, even when the other person doesn't speak english.

    First, the entire game uses roman letters for certain things, such as the three letter job codes.
    The JP client does not use those abbriviations. Though they are well understood, they're not used by the game on the JP client.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The JP client does not use those abbriviations. Though they are well understood, they're not used by the game on the JP client.
    It does in player search, since the command line uses roman letters (JP players still have to use /ma, etc). On equipment it uses one-character (usually kanji) abbreviations, such as mages having the kanji for red, white, black, or blue. When you use /sea and get the window full of results, the JP client still uses NIN, BRD, etc for player jobs and subjobs.
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    There can only be one meteor-lander!
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    It's really pretty ridiculous to release a spell that needs to be cast by 5-6 people to be useful, but make the scroll so rare that you've got to have friends in high places to ever round up that many people who actually have the spell to cast it.
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    JPs will by and large not invite NAs to do VW. Autotranslating weaknesses is too much; I remember the only reason I got into a particular Akvan alliance was because there was a 2nd BRD to handle all the procs. A friend of mine was invited (they must've been desperate for BLU) and I stuck some of the PT chat into google translate and they basically said "oh boy that's BLU is going to be trouble."

    I'm completely on board with the notion that JPs very much prefer to deal only with other JPs. And I'm not even hating on it, because communication is a real issue.

    Oh, we're talking about Meteor? Yeah, make it drop more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    JPs will by and large not invite NAs to do VW. Autotranslating weaknesses is too much; I remember the only reason I got into a particular Akvan alliance was because there was a 2nd BRD to handle all the procs. A friend of mine was invited (they must've been desperate for BLU) and I stuck some of the PT chat into google translate and they basically said "oh boy that's BLU is going to be trouble."
    {ice}BLU5

    you're right, that was absolutely horrendous to type. Clearly that's too much to ask of a Japanese bro.
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    Player detlef's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    {ice}BLU5

    you're right, that was absolutely horrendous to type. Clearly that's too much to ask of a Japanese bro.
    I'm not really saying it's hard. But they don't do it unless they absolutely have to (see my example with the BLU).
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    It really depends. Some of them use auto translate, some will only say procs in kanji.
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