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  1. #231
    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizuki_Ito
    1. All other gear items are relatively easy to obtain, so we would like players to obtain these items on their own.
    The items people get 2-3 of while they are trying to get the stuff that never drops are the only ones this ticket system would have been useful for. And please tell me again how Ganesha's Mala is easy to obtain when I'm 0/60+.

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    Last edited by Insaniac; 05-17-2012 at 11:42 PM.
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  2. #232
    Player Phafi's Avatar
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    When introducing the Provenance weakness system, does that include not requiring lights (or just auto capping the lights, to keep cells relevant) that we would be able to just kill the NM without staggering if we had the ability too? (Celaeno is really weak)
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    Last edited by Phafi; 05-17-2012 at 11:51 PM.

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    It means removing the retarded procs in normal VW (wyvern breaths, specific automaton ws) with the more streamlined set (like one proc per avatar)
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  4. #234
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    Quote Originally Posted by pancakesandsx View Post
    This ticket system is fundamentally broken.

    Let's say I'm collecting tickets for a mextli harness for some reason. I'm 2/3 on tickets, and finally the harness shows up in my box. Now I'm stuck with these 2 tickets I can't give to anyone else, and they are essentially wasted. Why would you implement a system like this? Nobody wants this.
    Can't please everyone. I think the proposed system is a welcome idea. Typically when doing 4 pops of any vw mob, usually at least 1 person gets the coveted item (or already has it), I'd much rather fight Akvan a dozen times knowing it's likely that I could obtain the body piece, rather than about 50 or 60 (I've lost count) and still never gotten it.

    If everyone was walking around with all the gear from VW it wouldn't seem as special imo.
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  5. #235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivivivi View Post
    Can't please everyone. I think the proposed system is a welcome idea. Typically when doing 4 pops of any vw mob, usually at least 1 person gets the coveted item (or already has it), I'd much rather fight Akvan a dozen times knowing it's likely that I could obtain the body piece, rather than about 50 or 60 (I've lost count) and still never gotten it.

    If everyone was walking around with all the gear from VW it wouldn't seem as special imo.
    If you think you're going to see 3 tickets hit the loot pool in 12 akvans you're out of your mind. The issue with the system is that people don't do VWNMs that they don't need items from. There's pretty much no reaosn for them to. So why would people even be in the alliance that are capable of getting tickets unless they got it earlier in the same run?
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  6. #236
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    I try not to post just to be negative, but the implementation of the ticketing system is horrible. As was stated, there are no reason for people to do a VWNM they have the body from in a pickup setting. The pickup group is normally comprised of most people going for same drops. Those who are willing to help a friend and already have the drop, or want their friend to get it, will have to put the ticket up for free lot to an alliance, not an individual trade. I really don't think this could have been implemented worse if they tried.
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  7. #237
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    Even in an LS setting how many people are going to to be willing to use stones/cells on VWNMs they need nothing from just for a miniscule chance to get someone 1/3 of a body?
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  8. #238
    Player Siiri's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Even in an LS setting how many people are going to to be willing to use stones/cells on VWNMs they need nothing from just for a miniscule chance to get someone 1/3 of a body?
    Exactly, I am a bit odd in that I love mages. ( I love my DD too) I really want Heka's and there are 3 or 4 people I know with them who were willing to help me when the ticketing came out. This is just too stupid to ask though now. I think I will forget VW drops.
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  9. #239
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    this is kinda the worst they could make out of the ticket idea...........

    why is it so bad if ppl would make some profit while doing VW runs when they dont need anything else from it? This would keep it alive! But changinging the 1st system they came up with (need 5-6, can trade) to this.. they can keep their tickets. I am not hopeing to lot against 12-15 other random shout ppl for a 1/3 drop.... And my friends couldnt even really help me with it cause there will be allways some ppl who just lot on the item in pool, even when the optainer said x-person would get it from him..

    They add Final chapter procsystem to all other chapters, add the treasure pool aswell and keep your tickets where they are. I rather lot 1 finished body every 30 runs then lotting on a 1/3 piece.
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  10. #240
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    When Couruscanti and the like drop once in a Blue Moon (talking Earth, not Vana'diel), you expect people to:
    a) already have this drop to give the ticket away and;
    b) someone to wait patiently for this to happen 3 times?

    Good luck.

    Even for Bodies, which are a better drop rate (still a horrific drop rate mind), you'd still need to find 3 instances where people get a second body and then win the lot 3 times. On Jeuno T3s this isn't too bad since they drop plates, but on City T4s... no one even does those/uses stones on those unless they want the drops.
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    Last edited by Sargent; 05-18-2012 at 05:39 AM.
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