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    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahoro View Post
    Who does Prov Watcher in PUGs expressly for Meteor/Arise?
    Everyone including the ones that try self persuasion of the opposite on several forums like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Everyone including the ones that try self persuasion of the opposite on several forums like you.
    Lol...I don't do Prov Watcher in PUGs for Meteor and Arise. I got Arise through my LS for DKP, which is the main way I advocated to get it on those "several forums" you mention (another admission you read BG for info while simultaneously bashing them).

    I don't honestly know who would subject themselves to a 1 hour set of 4 fights for a 1/18 chance of lotting something that is itself a 1-5/100 chance drop. Except for imaginary players you conjure up in strawman arguments designed for you to beat down. People who do Prov Watcher in PUGs go mainly for the other stuff which can appear in their chests. Freelotting scrolls that drop is a side benefit, not the ultimate goal. They don't go on the run expressly for that reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Everyone including the ones that try self persuasion of the opposite on several forums like you.
    That makes alot of sense, ya know, cause no one wants any of the gear...

    Sanus Ensis is a badass sword, healing power on a sword means its another push in the right direction for that left behind job once known as RDM. Not only that but it has good stats for melee too, and overall its worth the effort imo.

    Plenitas Virga, well as we talked about with blue procing MNKs, this staff is great for that, also its not bad if your a BLM looking to break out that Merit WS and have the nice INT boost your damage!

    The Adamas is welcome to any and all PLDs who do not have an Ochain or Aegis yet, but still wish to play their PLD and play it well.

    Hyaline Hat is a nice FC piece, and doubles as an enfeebling piece due to the magic acc, and high INT/MND on it.

    Drachenhorn is nice for Attack due to its +5% attack, and makes for an excellent WS piece due to the STR DEX VIT INT & MND, there are very few WSs this ISNT good for.

    Tessera Saio is amazing for THF especially with a Mandau, that is probably the best WS body they could hope for. It helps COR & RNG with its high Attack, RAttack, STR, AGI, and MAB.

    I really don't see the need to list the Abj gear, needless to say, it has its uses, your ideals about people doing this fight for 1 of 2 spells to possibly drop, and for them to try to out lot the others is stupid. Who the hell would go out of their way to make an alliance, fight 3 fights against 2 Caturae each time, just to fight an annoying crystal dragon, and HOPE, that after all this work, they might, just might, see it drop, so that they can lot on it, and again, HOPE they get a higher number than everyone else in the alliance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Sanus Ensis is a badass sword
    lol.

    Plenitas Virga
    Weilding this staff is beyond retarded.


    The Adamas
    Nani ¿ You have been bothering us for 3 or 4 pages with how VW items are the best in their slots lol. The basic empyrean weapon is accessible to 100% of the playerbase and is 100 times better.

    Hyaline Hat is a nice FC piece, and doubles as an enfeebling piece due to the magic acc, and high INT/MND on it.
    Duelist chapeau +2 or bust.

    I really don't see the need to list the Abj gear, needless to say, it has its uses
    All the abjurations suck.
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    A sword that has decent damage, melee stats, Req stats for if your not using Almace in favor of main healing via Sanus or Sanus/Galenus. The staff is not bad, it has low delay for a staff, and haste to make it even faster, for a MNK procing it is good. For a BLM using the new WS, it is good, did I say all BLMs should use it? No, if your doing VW, you have wings, you change your staff, use wing, go in, WS, come out, NM has less magic defense now and you sacrificed not a single nuke in doing the smart thing. The shield, well I wonder, did I add anything onto it as a stipulation on it being useful? Lets look shall we?
    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    The Adamas is welcome to any and all PLDs who do not have an Ochain or Aegis yet, but still wish to play their PLD and play it well.
    Well lookie there, to PLDs without an Ochain or Aegis. Now lets look at what you say...

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    The basic empyrean weapon is accessible to 100% of the playerbase and is 100 times better.
    Since when was it easy to make an Ochain? You want to run that by me again? Camping 50 CSs off VNMs that have 15 minute repops while the other 2 PLDs in the areas with their partys of friends and LS members try to pop it as well is easy? Fighting the Ironclads that make any of the Emp R/EX item NMs from Visions look like furry kittens, and the nice dragon that takes away everything abyssea gives you to make you really have to work to kill it. Yes, so easy, and so accessible, I'm sure everyone has one. But wait, they don't, more people have Aegis than Ochain because Aegis you have less people going after it in such a way it makes it almost impossible to get without spending weeks at it.

    Duelist chapeau +2 or bust.
    Damn, you must know some badass WHMs BLMs & SCHs to be able to wear one of those, hell, I forgot the fast cast thats on it, because that was one of the things I talked about, the FC the hat has, when you find a Duelist Chapeau +2 with fast cast, you let me know, k?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    You have been bothering us for 3 or 4 pages with how VW items are the best in their slots lol.
    WAIT! Tell me when I said that anything was the best for a slot? Closest I said to that was that I think the body for Light DDs is amazing for THF with Mandau COR & RNG, or that something was good if you didn't have something else. you want to show me where I said that VW gear was the best for a slot?

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    Here, Ill give you one, Sanus is THE BEST main weapon for a RDM who wants to cure AND DD at the same time. Adamas is THE BEST shield in the game for fighting melee mobs if you do not have an Aegis or Ochain. Ephemeron is THE BEST TP sword in the game for using in your off hand as a sword wielder. Need I go on? Let me put it a different way, if I say something is best in any case at all, its not saying use it forever and ever as the only item that goes there. If I say its best, there are reasons, and times, when it is best, because 99% if not all gear in this game, is situational.
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    Last edited by Demon6324236; 05-27-2012 at 07:29 PM.