Voidwatch Final Chapter

[Insaniac]

I've never been of that school of thought. I don't care what other people have especially when getting said gear just boils down to dumb luck. It really seems pretty selfish to not want other people to get what they want so you can feel good. I would prefer a point system over any of this ticket or add to pool BS so equal work would have to be put in instead of some people going 1/1 and others going 0/500+ but that is never gonna happen. I've put in a lot of work and have very little of what I actually want from VW. Even this stuff that's supposedly easy to obtain. Also, with a few exceptions, most VW gear isn't even that great.

[Demon6324236]

I'm not saying I want to have it and only me so I feel good about it, I'm just saying I wish there was some gear hard to get, takes effort, and few have. This used to exist in the game, you could tell when someone really cared about the job they were on, and they worked hard to be as strong as they were. Now days everyone has a Relic, an Emp, and Mythic is the last real type of thing that shows how hard you worked. Also everyone has nice gear all +2 with the old pro rings and earrings. It just feels like everyone, even people who just started and leeched from 30-99 with no real idea what they are doing, can get the best gear if people help them with it. No real effort or skill is needed, for anything, only money.

I think making everything luck based only ruins the game because it means everything you do could be completely pointless, there is no guaranty any amount of work will actually pay off, as you said, some people go 1/1 like I did with Heka's while others are 0/500, and that needs to change, because all it does is piss people off.

[Insaniac]

I can understand your point of view but I don't see how it applies to VW or an "add to pool" option. Having a piece of VW gear doesn't automatically say anything about your skill or devotion to a job. The event rewards neither skill or devotion. Maybe player A worked hard for his Toci's and set up dozens of runs and went 1/340 but player B just waltzed in, played terribly, and rode on the shoulders of people who knew what they were doing and went 1/4. Player B is no more devoted than some pink THF so who cares if they make it not soul crushing? Just gimme my shit is basically what I'm saying. I've put in my work and people who have put in far less have been rewarded where I haven't. I'm sick of VW in every way imaginable and I just want to be done with it so I don't see a problem with someone's mule being able to add their 4th w/e to the loot pool. I was hoping the ticket system would at least be some kind of help but it won't. People are still just as screwed as they have been for the last year.

[Byrth]

You could make shouts and lock the ticket, I guess.

[Insaniac]

Yeah I was thinking people might shout for groups where they will pay some mils for tickets to get people who already have w/e item they are after to join. I dunno how successful it would be though. I think you would have to dangle a pretty big chunk of gil to get someone to join for a .5% chance to earn some money. That would still only really work on Jeuno T3 bodies though and maybe city path bodies. The drop rates on glow weapons are so low you would probably never see 3 tickets.

[Demon6324236]

Oh I know the feel, tbh I was about to just give up on VW till the ticket system because I thought it was going to make things better, and then I could start up again and actually get my things. I have been trying to spam Aello whenever I have a chance because I want Ephemeron, and in all my fights I have seen 2 drop to other people, which depresses me that the ticket system will help me in absolutely no way at all! And what your saying isn't bad, like you said effort=nothing luck=everything in VW. I guess what I mean to say, is if they changed VW to where effort mattered such as the point system, it would be more showing of effort like old great gear once was. Forget my argument about having gear that is rare to see, all there is for that is Mythic, and honestly all gear now is common in some form, weapons are the only true rare things, thats why in VW we have weapons with what seem to be .1% drop rates while armors get what seems to be 1%...

[MarkovChain]

Its just because its great gear, I honestly don't want everyone running around with the best gear because then it makes it feel pointless to get in the 1st place imo

Voidwatch gear is garbage dude, people do it for meteor/arise/cider/dross/metal plates.

[Mahoro]

Heka's Kalasiris, Anhur Robe, Prolix Ring, Osseus Plate, Impatiens, Whetted Molar, and Rubeus Boots are not, and will likely never be, garbage.

If your statement said "2/3rds of Voidwatch gear is garbage," I might have agreed.

if your statement said "Voidwatch gear is garbage for MNK," as most of your blanket statements contain implicit assumptions about MNK, I might have not replied.

If, instead, you reply and say "Nyzul gear is so much better than Voidwatch crap," I would point out to you that at least 3 of the above-listed items directly impact performance in Neo-Nyzul.

[Chimerawizard]

Greetings!

Here is a follow-up from Mizuki Ito in regards to Voidwatch adjustments.

Please revise those revisions. If you read the responses, it's easy to see the ticket system will be crap. You'd be better off with any of the other ideas put out.
examples
(screw tickets, increase drop rate)
(not Ex)
(mob based tickets) IE: Heka's Kalasiris req:25 Keka's Ticket, Sceamol Band=1 ticket, Omphalos Bullet=5
etc

[Demon6324236]

Voidwatch gear is garbage dude, people do it for meteor/arise/cider/dross/metal plates.

This is why most DDs use the Belt from Kaggen, healers use or want Heka's, people want Mekira, people want Toci's, people want the body from T2 CoP, people want this gear because it is garbage? No, MNK gets little use from VW gear because its gets all its good gear handed to it, all you need is a Black Belt and you basically can cap haste with the least effort ever, and Black Belt is so hard to get these days right? I know people who want the belt from Kaggen due to its great haste and go 0/100+ on it because of how VW drops are. Yet your nice little belt takes a few runs of some KSNMs which are even easier because now you can take your KCs & HKCs you got from abyssea all this time, and provided you don't use them, turn them into KSs. Your +2 gear is easy, your +2 relic is easy, honestly I haven't seen any gear MNK uses that is honestly hard to get when compared to VW gear. Most jobs apart from MNK, actually make use of said gear, even if you don't. Also, if this gear is garbage, why do people complain they are 0/100+ on pieces of it? Not complain that plates, cid, dross, spells, and the such don't drop enough?