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  1. #271
    Player Cybernetic_Empire's Avatar
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    Can we get some devs that understand basic game design, customer service, sociology, and psychology please? The proposed ticket system does nothing to help alleviate VW's biggest flaw. Waste. Waste of time, waste of gil, waste of loot, waste of dev time, etc. Only a pack of lunatics could say that they think Abyssea wasn't successful and then turn around and pat themselves on the back for Voidwatch. You've had paying customers screaming at you for a year now to do one thing regarding VW. Keep it simple stupid! Instead, the development team commissions a bigger hammer to try and force the square peg into the round hole.

    But by all means, just continue to ignore the ideas about VW loot handling, that span multiple threads, that are far superior to anything you've decided to implement. My brain literally hurts right now trying to see how anyone can think that generating tickets and then making then NOT TRADE-ABLE will benefit anyone.
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    Voidwatch is designed to drain away your time / money / resources and have "something to do". That is why everything their doing is to drag it out for as long as possible. Same with legion / neo nyzule, designed with minimal time / reward ratio's and lots of "luck" *cough* Barance sprinkled in.

    I'm not expecting any form of actual fixes for at least another year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

  3. #273
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    Only way this might help isn't the ticket system, rather I'm sure some partys will want people to weaken the monster just to get the battle over with or make it easier to win, then again now that procing weakens the NM might not be the case, just means procing is all the more important. But I can see shouts for NMs such as Kalasutrax & Morta to require people to weaken it due to its difficulty. Depending on the weakening price I hope this isn't the case, but never know.

    After this update, I see VW shouts changing a bit, possible shout for Kaggen & Kalasutrax being...
    "T3 (Jeuno) Kaggen (Looking for members) (jobs) Tickets:1Mil"
    "T6 (Jeuno) Kalasutrax (Looking for members) (Jobs) Must have Relic/Emp & (Weakening item)"
    Or something like this which will basicly ruin their reasons for even doing these things this way.
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  4. #274
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    It should have been "add item to loot pool". Plain and simple. They could have even kept the stipulation that you need to already have the item to be able to add it to the loot pool. They would have covered every r/e item without having to worry about tickets or inventory space or selling outside of the alliance that killed the mob. They went out of their way to continue screwing us. Just to draw out the lifespan of an event everyone has been sick of for 6 months. It's really pretty infuriating. We had a little over a year of devs that actually listened to what we wanted, within reason, and it was glorious. I'm sure some of the dev fail has to do with pressure being put on them to spend as little money as possible so they can continue to support Tanaka's other disaster but there has to be a limit on how many FUs they can throw at us. The only way to beat them is to just stop doing VW.
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    To be fair, it is entirely possible the Development Bros have no ulterior motive.

    They may simply be deranged or dumb or both.

    If Voidwatch chests before were the act of being kicked in the groin, I'd compare this ticket system to building a Rube Goldberg machine to kick one's groin with 1% less intensity than kicks administered previous. Also, the reason for being kicked earlier is not known, but the universe of the mind is pervaded by the feeling that one's groin must be kicked. Thus, a bombastic nonsense machine is built using string and old boots and two hamsters and one candle and a lot of tin scraps. So many tin scraps.

    Like something at the never-written end of the most comical unfinished Franz Kafka novel. I can't even complain about this new ticket system in a way that makes sense; it's a black hole that sucks up anything good or rational. It's even worse than the people expecting something bad expected.
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    If you complain enough tickets will be sellable, they always backpedal when there is enough complaints.
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    Well you see if they made it simply goto the pool then they would defiantly have people outside the party waiting to buy, because then you have your entire item right there, also it would be way~ to easy to get it for your ls members, just bring a party of 18 ls mates, 6 have it already, in 20 pops of Kaggen you will get everything for everyone probably.

    And Spank, I read that, barley understood it, but I admit, yes, it makes no sense at all, just SE being SE as always I guess right?
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    Going to chime in with "Why, oh merciless and malevolent God, can we not sell the tickets in bazaars?" since I haven't said that outright:

    Why, oh merciless and malevolent God, can we not sell the tickets in bazaars?

    Voidwatch already borders on being on a decent source of gil, and being able to sell the tickets would slightly enhance that aspect of Voidwatch. The ticket system that is currently planned, on the other hand, will greatly enhance the "I have depression." aspect of Voidwatch.

    I understand that sitting alone in a dark room and drinking cheap gin directly from its plastic bottle is an important aspect of Voidwatch, and must be acknowledged in all updates to Voidwatch, but it has other aspects as well. Stuff like obtaining items to use or sell.

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    And Spank, I read that, barley understood it, but I admit, yes, it makes no sense at all, just SE being SE as always I guess right?
    You understood more of it than I did, than, and I typed it!
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  9. #279
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Well you see if they made it simply goto the pool then they would defiantly have people outside the party waiting to buy, because then you have your entire item right there, also it would be way~ to easy to get it for your ls members, just bring a party of 18 ls mates, 6 have it already, in 20 pops of Kaggen you will get everything for everyone probably.
    My question for you is what's wrong with that? Other than the fact that they have no meaningful content lined up why shouldn't we be allowed to start wrapping up VW? The only issue with people not needing to do VW anymore is HMPs and cinder/dross which they can easily add a new source for. Why cant we start moving past this "event" after 12+ horrific months of wasted time? Sometimes content needs to be finite for it to not suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    My question for you is what's wrong with that? Other than the fact that they have no meaningful content lined up why shouldn't we be allowed to start wrapping up VW? The only issue with people not needing to do VW anymore is HMPs and cinder/dross which they can easily add a new source for. Why cant we start moving past this "event" after 12+ horrific months of wasted time? Sometimes content needs to be finite for it to not suck.
    Its just because its great gear, I honestly don't want everyone running around with the best gear because then it makes it feel pointless to get in the 1st place imo. Thats why I'm a melee RDM, because they don't actually exist! Its like me playing MNK, I would love to be a good MNK, but it feels pointless when every MNK in the game who actually plays MNK for more than blue procs, has a Black Belt, lv85-99 H2H Emp or Relic, and Full AF3+2 with AF2+2 hands...

    There should be gear thats good and only a few have. When everyone has it, then it becomes common and you no longer care that you have it, its just another Rajas ring, its good gear, but everyone has it, so its not special to you at all, just another piece of gear. I think everyone should have GOOD gear, but not GREAT gear, and VW gear is great, while abyssea is good. I'm not by any means saying I think it should take someone 200 Kaggens, to get 1 body. I'm just saying I think it should take some effort and time, so not everyone has it. Because I think Black Belt is a good example of what was once pro gear, that is now a joke to get.
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