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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by pancakesandsx View Post
    Let's say I'm collecting tickets for a mextli harness for some reason. I'm 2/3 on tickets, and finally the harness shows up in my box. Now I'm stuck with these 2 tickets I can't give to anyone else, and they are essentially wasted. Why would you implement a system like this? Nobody wants this.
    Second reply after post, hits the nail on the head.

    Even better; you're 2/3 on tickets, one pops up in pool, and you get outlotted by someone else. Person who out-lotted you then gets the piece in the next chest.
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    It wont be so bad for coruscanti, because qilin can drop pouches. But akvan can only drop singles, so no one is going to spam it for hmps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    Yeah the system should of been a mix trophy/ticket like system with different tiers of tickets per type of rare/ex. The reason for tickets is the ticket itself would be for a specific NM and then have tiers like gold/silver/bronze depending on the qulaity of the item. Then have a value for the rare/ex item. At the end have a choice of whether or not to pull the ticket.

    The biggest problem with the coming system is what if you dont want items listed, then your not being helped at all. As for some items not as rare as others, this is a matter of perception. I have done over 100 kaggen, got the body in the few pops - w/o having a job that could use it, I continued doing the nm because I wanted the belt. In all those runs I have dropped 2 bodies and still no belt. Yes the ticket system would help someone else who needed the body but how am i going to get help with this system for the belt since it still can't be given to me or even "ticketed".

    And the other issue like mentioned before is the 2/3 then you get the item, so now you have these wasted tickets. And really from what I have seen thats the biggest complaint about VW is WASTE, because of all the rare/ex that is trashed because of dublicates, the above system only addressses a small portion of that.

    Also this system only gives a partial reason to help on SOME of the VWNMs leaving out most. With a tieried ticket system per NM it would be easier to find help on a larger variety of VWNMS. As for the exhange of tickets have that done at the rift where only the popped nms tickets can be used.
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  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    It wont be so bad for coruscanti, because qilin can drop pouches. But akvan can only drop singles, so no one is going to spam it for hmps.
    Find me 3 people across all servers who have gotten 2 Coruscanti.
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    The way it should have been is simple, just make it where when you kill a NM you get tickets based on the amount of certain lights, such as for instance, you have Blue capped, thats 350, for every 100 light you get 1 ticket, so thats 3 tickets for that kill, if you use cells, then 500, so 5 tickets, these tickets are exchanged at the same spots you would pop the NM the tickets are for.

    Tickets would be for each NM, meaning if you kill Akvan, you get Akvan tickets, upon spending these tickets you get an item based on the number you spend. The more rare the item the more you must spend to obtain it. For instance, bodys would be say 100 tickets, so that at least 20 fights against a NM must be done for you to get it via tickets.

    This system would mean that you do not have to have the item already, you are not lotting against others (which I would think is the entire reason for how VWs drops are setup even, seeing how it makes lotting against others impossible which is completely different than any other time!) and you can get your item for sure in time, or if your lucky, you get it faster.

    The amounts could be changed of course, if 20 kills seems to small for a body (probably does to some due to the ease of 20 kills and the rapid increase of the amount of these rare items being gotten) then it could be something more like 500 tickets, meaning at least 100 kills for a garanty of your item. Either way this system would work much better imo.

    With this system your asking people to fight NMs of which they get no benefit from other than items you already claim are easy to get, or at least easier, which tells me you think its easy to get a belt from Kaggen, yet you expect me to get 2 or more Bodys from it first!
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  6. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Find me 3 people across all servers who have gotten 2 Coruscanti.
    I'm not sure how I would go about doing that. Any suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I'm not sure how I would go about doing that. Any suggestions?
    Point is that it drops so rarely that it probably doesn't actually happen, the drop rate is low enough that in about 50 Qilin I have fought I have never actually had someone say they got one, now it could be they are just quiet about it, but I doubt that, and 50 fights, time the 16-18 people, is the same as saying fighting Qilin 800-900 without a drop.

    To show the flaw of this ticket system again, 50 fights without a drop of the Coruscanti, so thats 50 fights without a CHANCE at out lotting others on a THIRD of what I need for me to get one...
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  8. #248
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    The main thing this system does is allow people to sell drops, not that I think it would ever really happen. In most reasonable pickup situations, your odds of completing an armor through Slips before completing it just by getting the drop is going to be below 1%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I'm not sure how I would go about doing that. Any suggestions?
    Dark magic.

    A Green Lantern's power ring.

    Unlocking a latent telepathic gift.

    Become Batman. I think that would work out somehow. If not, you're still Batman and probably only worried about Batman-things as a result.

    A very specific satanic ritual.

    Craig's list...if you don't mind finding three very naked people, very covered in baked beans, who have a Coruscanti and have gotten an extra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I'm not sure how I would go about doing that. Any suggestions?
    Rhetorical.
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