Voidwatch Final Chapter

[Mahoro]

Well, people leaving in PUGs is always a risk, but there is no "waste" in this situation because the person using their own weakening items is deriving the benefit of such items for their own pop immediately. Sure, someone in a PUG could leech off that fight and Warp home after getting stuff, but whether that happens or not does not ultimately affect the popper's own investment. The popper paid his money, got his weaker NM, the ally killed it, and he got the benefit of his bargain. And in a rapidly shrinking playerbase, the leech will get a bad rep.

You couldn't give everyone's money to one person in PUG situations anyway since everyone needs to buy their own nuggets in Jugner Forest beforehand. But yes, it would be a bad idea.

Aello and the other Zilart mobs might be an issue, but if they are weakened to begin with, then I doubt the pets will remain at full strength or pose much problem to the alliance.

[Demon6324236]

Well, people leaving in PUGs is always a risk, but there is no "waste" in this situation because the person using their own weakening items is deriving the benefit of such items for their own pop immediately. Sure, someone in a PUG could leech off that fight and Warp home after getting stuff, but whether that happens or not does not ultimately affect the popper's own investment. The popper paid his money, got his weaker NM, the ally killed it, and he got the benefit of his bargain. And in a rapidly shrinking playerbase, the leech will get a bad rep.

You couldn't give everyone's money to one person in PUG situations anyway since everyone needs to buy their own nuggets in Jugner Forest beforehand. But yes, it would be a bad idea.

Aello and the other Zilart mobs might be an issue, but if they are weakened to begin with, then I doubt the pets will remain at full strength or pose much problem to the alliance.

True, as to part 2, depending on the distance from the Vunkerl Inlet Abyssea maw... I could see it as part of the restoning time so long as you are doing 3~5 kills. If doing 6 thats the only time it would be impossible, otherwise the person could get them at the same time as restoning and it would only take 2~5 extra minutes. Also its actually Zilart, Aht, and CoP so far as I know since each of them spawn some form of pet for a few or most of the NMs. :x

[MarkovChain]

Sanus Ensis is a badass sword

lol.

Plenitas Virga

Weilding this staff is beyond retarded.

The Adamas

Nani ¿ You have been bothering us for 3 or 4 pages with how VW items are the best in their slots lol. The basic empyrean weapon is accessible to 100% of the playerbase and is 100 times better.

Hyaline Hat is a nice FC piece, and doubles as an enfeebling piece due to the magic acc, and high INT/MND on it.

Duelist chapeau +2 or bust.

I really don't see the need to list the Abj gear, needless to say, it has its uses

All the abjurations suck.

[Demon6324236]

A sword that has decent damage, melee stats, Req stats for if your not using Almace in favor of main healing via Sanus or Sanus/Galenus. The staff is not bad, it has low delay for a staff, and haste to make it even faster, for a MNK procing it is good. For a BLM using the new WS, it is good, did I say all BLMs should use it? No, if your doing VW, you have wings, you change your staff, use wing, go in, WS, come out, NM has less magic defense now and you sacrificed not a single nuke in doing the smart thing. The shield, well I wonder, did I add anything onto it as a stipulation on it being useful? Lets look shall we?

The Adamas is welcome to any and all PLDs who do not have an Ochain or Aegis yet, but still wish to play their PLD and play it well.

Well lookie there, to PLDs without an Ochain or Aegis. Now lets look at what you say...

The basic empyrean weapon is accessible to 100% of the playerbase and is 100 times better.

Since when was it easy to make an Ochain? You want to run that by me again? Camping 50 CSs off VNMs that have 15 minute repops while the other 2 PLDs in the areas with their partys of friends and LS members try to pop it as well is easy? Fighting the Ironclads that make any of the Emp R/EX item NMs from Visions look like furry kittens, and the nice dragon that takes away everything abyssea gives you to make you really have to work to kill it. Yes, so easy, and so accessible, I'm sure everyone has one. But wait, they don't, more people have Aegis than Ochain because Aegis you have less people going after it in such a way it makes it almost impossible to get without spending weeks at it.

Duelist chapeau +2 or bust.

Damn, you must know some badass WHMs BLMs & SCHs to be able to wear one of those, hell, I forgot the fast cast thats on it, because that was one of the things I talked about, the FC the hat has, when you find a Duelist Chapeau +2 with fast cast, you let me know, k?

You have been bothering us for 3 or 4 pages with how VW items are the best in their slots lol.

WAIT! Tell me when I said that anything was the best for a slot? Closest I said to that was that I think the body for Light DDs is amazing for THF with Mandau COR & RNG, or that something was good if you didn't have something else. you want to show me where I said that VW gear was the best for a slot?

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Here, Ill give you one, Sanus is THE BEST main weapon for a RDM who wants to cure AND DD at the same time. Adamas is THE BEST shield in the game for fighting melee mobs if you do not have an Aegis or Ochain. Ephemeron is THE BEST TP sword in the game for using in your off hand as a sword wielder. Need I go on? Let me put it a different way, if I say something is best in any case at all, its not saying use it forever and ever as the only item that goes there. If I say its best, there are reasons, and times, when it is best, because 99% if not all gear in this game, is situational.

[Byrth]

Drachenhorn gives slightly more attack than Twilight Helm for most of the DDs that can wear it, but it doesn't have CHR or AGI for random relic WS mods. It is generally worse than Mekira Oto +1 for STR modded WSs, even ignoring other options.
PLD, WAR, DRG, BST, SAM, and DRK use:
Requiescat (MND), Atonement (nothing), Vorpal Blade (STR), Ukko's Fury (STR), Upheaval (VIT), Drakesbane (STR), Stardiver (STR), Rampage (STR), Ruinator (STR), Kaiten/Shoha/G/Y/K (STR), Ageha (CHR), Resolution (STR), Scourge (MND/CHR), Catastrophe (AGI/INT)

So it is actually only good for two of the WSs that those jobs can use. It's not really a very good piece, but it looks cool.


Sanus is pretty worthless. Again though, if you were an FFX fan it might look cool.

If you consider O.chain or Aegis obtainable then either is better than Adamas, but it is unclear to me that Adamas is working properly.

Tessera Saio is a good WS piece for Exenterator, Mercy Stroke, Wild Fire, etc. with the downside that it's ugly as sin.

Plenitas is a decent Meteor/Shattersoul staff.

Hyaline Hat is 10% Fast Cast, but so is Nares Cap. It has some nice MAcc too, though. This is honestly one of the most useful pieces from Provenance Watcher.


Body abjurations:
Generally, the NQ is worthless and the HQ is might be useful if the augments were good and you got lucky.

[Mahoro]

True, as to part 2, depending on the distance from the Vunkerl Inlet Abyssea maw... I could see it as part of the restoning time so long as you are doing 3~5 kills. If doing 6 thats the only time it would be impossible, otherwise the person could get them at the same time as restoning and it would only take 2~5 extra minutes. Also its actually Zilart, Aht, and CoP so far as I know since each of them spawn some form of pet for a few or most of the NMs. :x

Eh? Each person needs to buy his own individual nuggets from the NPC. The NPC will only give 5 during a Conquest period. Nobody can buy nuggets for each other IIRC.

[Demon6324236]

Eh? Each person needs to buy his own individual nuggets from the NPC. The NPC will only give 5 during a Conquest period. Nobody can buy nuggets for each other IIRC.

Ah yes I forgot about that limitation, thank you for pointing it out.

[Demon6324236]

Drachenhorn gives slightly more attack than Twilight Helm for most of the DDs that can wear it, but it doesn't have CHR or AGI for random relic WS mods. It is generally worse than Mekira Oto +1 for STR modded WSs, even ignoring other options.
PLD, WAR, DRG, BST, SAM, and DRK use:
Requiescat (MND), Atonement (nothing), Vorpal Blade (STR), Ukko's Fury (STR), Upheaval (VIT), Drakesbane (STR), Stardiver (STR), Rampage (STR), Ruinator (STR), Kaiten/Shoha/G/Y/K (STR), Ageha (CHR), Resolution (STR), Scourge (MND/CHR), Catastrophe (AGI/INT)

So it is actually only good for two of the WSs that those jobs can use. It's not really a very good piece, but it looks cool.

I know DRKs who use Emp Scythe, which would make good use of it Quietus (STR & MND) if you use this you might also be using the Merit WS, Entropy (INT), I will admit there are not many its best for if any, but its all around a good piece for them if you dont have a +1 Mekira or want to lug around a few diffrent helms.

Sanus is pretty worthless. Again though, if you were an FFX fan it might look cool.

I doubt the fact I like FFX has anything to do with the fact I think a sword with 13% Cure potency is good. I am a RDM, I like the idea of beating shit to death with my swords of which I was ment to use. When you give me a sword like this, with STR, nice DMG, nice MND which helps both my cures, and my Req I will be using if it is in my main hand. Yeah, Im going to say its good, and Im going to use it. If you don't like it, my guess is, you either are on the RDM's don't melee side of the fence, or you don't understand the idea behind this sword being useful.

If you consider O.chain or Aegis obtainable then either is better than Adamas, but it is unclear to me that Adamas is working properly.

As I said, for if you don't have them, myself I have Almace, working on Excalibur, I have no shield because I make these for my RDM, not PLD, however my PLD can use them ofcourse, so I could get an Adamas to give me a good one, and also on that note I could get myself a Relic or Emp later on if so desired, although this would be the much easier route I would think.

Tessera Saio is a good WS piece for Exenterator, Mercy Stroke, Wild Fire, etc. with the downside that it's ugly as sin.

Last I knew looks weren't exactly a big point in any gear, as show by the fact my RDM looks like a total idiot in my melee gear due the the mix match attire that we are given.

Plenitas is a decent Meteor/Shattersoul staff.

Agreed, as was my point, and its good for blunt procing as well.

Hyaline Hat is 10% Fast Cast, but so is Nares Cap. It has some nice MAcc too, though. This is honestly one of the most useful pieces from Provenance Watcher.

This would be fast cast enfeebling, where as Nares is more fast cast nuking, in either case I still think this would be easier to get than Nares for me at least being that since I have no static group for NNI I don't have the chance to get much gear from it, I would rather Nares hands just for the massive MAB.

[SpankWustler]

I doubt the fact I like FFX has anything to do with the fact I think a sword with 13% Cure potency is good. I am a RDM, I like the idea of beating shit to death with my swords of which I was ment to use. When you give me a sword like this, with STR, nice DMG, nice MND which helps both my cures, and my Req I will be using if it is in my main hand. Yeah, Im going to say its good, and Im going to use it. If you don't like it, my guess is, you either are on the RDM's don't melee side of the fence, or you don't understand the idea behind this sword being useful.

It's not the best option for hitting stuff nor is it the best option for curing people. It's very possible to benefit more from not using Sanus Ensis if you have better options for both of those things, even if you do hit stuff with stuff while on Red Mage, by optimizing for whichever is more important at that time.

That said, I could see it being really nice for somebody who hasn't made an Almace or a Cure stick and it's the best thing a Blue Mage can macro for healing spells if that Blue Mage isn't presently hitting a thing with his or her things. I could see it being more useful than an Almace for Paladin for a situation when damage didn't matter at all, but I'm not sure if that situation ever exists.

I think the Sanus Ensis a good example of what to expect from worthwhile Voidwatch drops in general, actually. It's a very solid piece while not being the absolute best option, and it has one or two quirky uses even if a bro has the best possible thing. Generally, stuff that somebody who hasn't sunk time into getting the very best would be happy to receive randomly.

Given that randomly very acutely describes how the stuff drops, that almost makes sense except for the "I will ride a sharpened ATV made out of burning nightmares into your anus." drop rates that often make obtaining a specific thing from Voidwatch more time-consuming than just doing whatever is needed to obtain or buy the best option.

Some are a little better than that, a few are even the best possible option for whatnot, and some are noteworthy because they are incomprehensibly bad for no apparent reason; that's how I'd describe the lion's share of Voidwatch stuff that's worth describing.

[saevel]

Sanus Ensis is a RDM's solo / low man weapon. Last I checked RDM didn't have staff skill, so using staves results in 0 melee damage. Almace / Sanus or Shikagar / Sanus (Req) are good setups, really good setups for a RDM. On anything T+ or under Req ends up doing more the CDC, though AM on CDC makes Almace a better option. Something people also forget is the cure effect received +10% on that sword, combined with its cure potency means the RDM in question is really hard to
kill.

Then again if people's idea of a RDM is a little taru in AF / relic spamming Haste / Cure IV, then yeah this sword sucks for that.

Finial thing people tend to forget is RDM is highly inventory limited. With req sharing the same gear a RDM would use for their MND enfeebling set it actually plays to RDM's strengths.