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  1. #311
    Player Monchat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    What you meant to say was "ninurta sash is easier to get IF you have chains of promathia 8-1, you're competent, and you have people to help you kill absolute virtue". I see 10+ kaggen shouts a day. Kaggen belt is far easier.
    you dont pope AV you buy the belt from bazaars.
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  2. #312
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    I know for a fact Ninurta's is better, thats obvious by the fact that attack>acc not to mention Spell interruption rate for PLD/DRK/RDM and Subtle Blow
    For the love of all that is holy stop thinking that way.

    On anything worth a damn you will not be automatically capping accuracy, this isn't abyssea anymore. I've seen too many of our parses where people are at ~80% accuracy. T6 Voidwatch / Ig / Rex / Prov (pre-fights) / Morta / Bismark are where I see people making this mistake the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

  3. #313
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    Fupafighter is a recent player he doesn't have a good grasp of the correct reward/(time spent) ratio. Nin sahs for a few milions is definitely a good deal seing the whole process of just poping AV is taking several days solo (assuming you can solo the pop).
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  4. #314
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monchat View Post
    you dont pope AV you buy the belt from bazaars.
    There are only as many Ninurta's in bazaars as there are people killing AV and getting it to sell.
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  5. #315
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    For the love of all that is holy stop thinking that way.

    On anything worth a damn you will not be automatically capping accuracy, this isn't abyssea anymore. I've seen too many of our parses where people are at ~80% accuracy. T6 Voidwatch / Ig / Rex / Prov (pre-fights) / Morta / Bismark are where I see people making this mistake the most.
    Its not abyssea, no, but we are still stocked with Stalwarts for acc, Bravers for DEX(acc), and most DD gear is stocked with acc... Really I don't see how your accuracy can be all to bad when you have all this accuracy given to you easy and simple.
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    You'd be surprised. Even with all that I've still seen DDs parse at sub 50% accuracy on things like Rex, a lot of people still have the abyssea mindset where they think they're auto-capped accuracy all the time.

    Last time we did Rex only the relic holders were above 90%, and they had +35 accuracy on their weapons. 1-handed jobs and MNKs had to use pizza/sushi to even get a respectable hit rate on him to land triggers.
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    Well then in that case it means my argument VW gear isnt shit, is even more so correct seeing as the acc is needed.
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  8. #318
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Its not abyssea, no, but we are still stocked with Stalwarts for acc, Bravers for DEX(acc), and most DD gear is stocked with acc... Really I don't see how your accuracy can be all to bad when you have all this accuracy given to you easy and simple.
    With Berserk + Aggressor + Last Resort + Soul Eater + Stalwarts + Bravers and a Jingang (prior to my Rag) I would typically have ~80% on those fights. And I don't have sh!t gear.

    Those things have ridiculously high level correction to go with their ridiculously high stats. Outside of Feint or an Embrava SV BRD zerg you will not be capping accuracy (Relic Wielders notwithstanding).

    6 acc will raise your hit rate by 3%, 6 attack isn't even a drop in the bucket to your Attack Ratio. Thus the attack > accuracy is only true when your fighting relatively weak stuff, otherwise Haste > Accuracy > Attack = DA > STR/DEX as a general rule of thumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    With Berserk + Aggressor + Last Resort + Soul Eater + Stalwarts + Bravers and a Jingang (prior to my Rag) I would typically have ~80% on those fights. And I don't have sh!t gear.

    Those things have ridiculously high level correction to go with their ridiculously high stats. Outside of Feint or an Embrava SV BRD zerg you will not be capping accuracy (Relic Wielders notwithstanding).

    6 acc will raise your hit rate by 3%, 6 attack isn't even a drop in the bucket to your Attack Ratio. Thus the attack > accuracy is only true when your fighting relatively weak stuff, otherwise Haste > Accuracy > Attack = DA > STR/DEX as a general rule of thumb.
    Well, myself I don't actually use DD jobs in VW. I'm always a SCH or BLU, I just went with the idea of it being that way because not many wanted to say much to Mr.VW gear is shit, but when I say Attack>Acc oh its on! But no matter how good or bad VW gear is, it wont matter much, not like were getting any with drops shitty as they are and SE barely doing anything to fix it right?
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  10. #320
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    I have never seen ninurta's sash below 7 mil. Just saying. Alot of people get that belt while trying for mekira body. Wait I forgot, that must be garbage too because it comes from VW. OH wait 100 nyzle gear must be trash too. Gtfo lol...
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