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  1. #251
    Player Sargent's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Find me 3 people across all servers who have gotten 2 Coruscanti.
    Funnily enough, I know one person who has gotten 2 before he got Fajin Boots. But he's probably the only one across all servers who has. But on a serious note, no one is ever going to get a Ephemeron/Couruscanti/Murasamemaru using the ticket system because the drop rates are stupidly low.
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    SMN99/SAM99/DNC99/PLD99/THF99
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    Hvergelmir 90

  2. #252
    Player Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Please make it that ticket goes to the player who choose to ticketing, and then he/she can trade or give it to whomever he/she choose. If it goes to the loot pool, all these pick up groups are a recipe for riot on lotting - and not fair if you plan to give it to someone else.
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  3. #253
    Player Mahoro's Avatar
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    In PUG's you may be able to drop party and invite your intended recipient. An annoying workaround though.
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  4. #254
    Player Khiinroye's Avatar
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    Sellable tickets do not exclude giving them to friends at no cost or doing VW to help others. It allows tickets to be sold or given away even if the person gathering tickets gets the item before collecting 3 tickets. It provides an incentive for people to use voidstones even if they have the body already, and may get more participation in the event because the tickets are sellable.

    Exclusive tickets do notprevent selling the tickets to other people in the group, and do not ensure that the desired person will receive the ticket (barring the "drop party" workaround). It prevents tickets being used if the person gathering tickets gets the item again.


    Example:
    Hey, this guy is shouting for Celaeno. I have the body already, so I'll use AN to buy some 25-30k voiddusts to get a chance at 10k mirrors and 2-5k in miscellaneous drops. If I get a ticket, I'll just give it away to a complete stranger out of the goodness of my heart. Oh wait, I could just put the dust on the AH and make 30k right away. No. The person shouting will have to put a price that they will PAY FOR THE TICKETS in order to get people to join.
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    Last edited by Khiinroye; 05-19-2012 at 01:38 AM.

  5. #255
    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Rhetorical.
    Yes, I know. Maybe I should've put a smiley face or something after my reply.

    i was responding to your impossible to answer statement with my own impossible to answer question.
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    Last edited by Raksha; 05-19-2012 at 01:53 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

  6. #256
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khiinroye View Post
    Sellable tickets do not exclude giving them to friends at no cost or doing VW to help others. It allows tickets to be sold or given away even if the person gathering tickets gets the item before collecting 3 tickets. It provides an incentive for people to use voidstones even if they have the body already, and may get more participation in the event because the tickets are sellable.

    Exclusive tickets do notprevent selling the tickets to other people in the group, and do not ensure that the desired person will receive the ticket (barring the "drop party" workaround). It prevents tickets being used if the person gathering tickets gets the item again.


    Example:
    Hey, this guy is shouting for Celaeno. I have the body already, so I'll use AN to buy some 25-30k voiddusts to get a chance at 10k mirrors and 2-5k in miscellaneous drops. If I get a ticket, I'll just give it away to a complete stranger out of the goodness of my heart. Oh wait, I could just put the dust on the AH and make 30k right away. No. The person shouting will have to put a price that they will PAY FOR THE TICKETS in order to get people to join.
    Sadly now that you say it, that does seem extremely likely to happen, people making price reqs to tickets upon shout... In any case this system is all kinds of messed up, if nothing else you can have people shouting they will buy tickets now, or people shouting to sell the tickets if they drop when doing large numbers with your ls, it will not stop selling anymore than current R/EX items.

    My disappointment in myself for thinking this would help to fix my problems with VW, I was such a fool...
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  7. #257
    Player Asymptotic's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sargent View Post
    Funnily enough, I know one person who has gotten 2 before he got Fajin Boots. But he's probably the only one across all servers who has. But on a serious note, no one is ever going to get a Ephemeron/Couruscanti/Murasamemaru using the ticket system because the drop rates are stupidly low.
    I got 2 Coruscanti on Bismarck, and Dew has 2 Coruscanti.
    There's 3 @ Insaniac.

    :F
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  8. #258
    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    I havent done much qilin, but I've seen 2 different people get coruscantis so either you got bad luck or my groups got good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

  9. #259
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    EDIT: correct answer is both at the same time.
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  10. #260
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    The main point is its not likely for someone to be doing a NM they already have the rarest drop from, and get the rare drop a 2nd time, let alone you being in a party not once, not twice, but 3 times when this happens, and being the lucky person who is getting the ticket, the chances of all this happening before your just lucky enough to get it as a drop is unreal, and not to mention that it also is the waste factor, get 2 then get the item, and your tickets, are now trash because they are R/EX with nothing to do, unless we could use tickets for 1 item to get another, which obviously isn't the case, but that is the only way it would work out without wasting them.
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