Voidwatch Final Chapter

[Karbuncle]

Maybe it was a typo and has Acc+4 :X? I can dream

[Camiie]

Some players suggested that we remove the low quality drops, or “useless” items, from the rewards at the end. We aren’t providing those lower tier rewards to cause players to be upset, and it is possible for us make it so those drops are removed and no item drops in their place instead.

However, if we were to replace certain items that are perceived as useless, with no drop players may feel that the loot system is bugged when they don’t receive any reward. As such, we would like to provide some sort of drop each time. Also, we have received many comments asking that the items dropped are improved slightly, but we have no plans to make any adjustments at the moment. We feel that we have to draw a line somewhere, or else the requests would begin to get out of hand. As such, we will maintain our current system.

As usual the devs choose to draw their line in wrong place. They're basically saying, we'll give you crap or we'll give you nothing.

Do the devs want people doing this stuff for a long time to come or not? If so, then they need to load the event down with lots and lots of things people actually will want. You catch more flies with honey and all that. There should be stuff for everyone to chase after and enough where it can't all be obtained in a handful of trips. It doesn't have to be overpowering or game breaking stuff either, but it does have to be better than what came before. You know how far people will go for just a small stat boost.

Come on, dev people, this is game design not behavioral science. These are people you're making content for not trained rats in a box. You need to meet us half-way, because ultimately we're the ones who are really running the show. You aren't doing it without us are you? You want to give us crap or nothing? Fine, you give us crap and we'll give you nothing. How's that work for you?

[Mahoro]

If the implication is that Meteor/Arise drop from Legion, I'd advise to implement the proposed changes ASAP, because the event needs adjustments in its current state as Ein did when it was first released. My LS and I WANT to do Legion (and the prospect of Meteor/Arise dropping would be nice if true), but the difficulty skew is way too high at the moment.

[Luvbunny]

When it was released, Folhardi ring (a R/Ex drop off one of the four highest level Voidwatch fights) looked so bad compared to easy quest/NM/AH alternatives that I sworn it would have some kind of hidden effect. It has been a few weeks now, and there have been no reports of it being anything but terrible. I wish it was the only bad drop from those fights, but it isn't.

The worst part is that you littered legion with crap drops too, but people don't even care enough about the event to do it and get angry about them.

LOL thanks for pointing this to us. Yeah they put so many crappy drops everywhere even in lower Voidwatch tiers, it's very uneven. I mean if they are going to put materials drop in Voidwatch, Walk of Echoes, Campaign, Gold sturdy pixies, etc - please make it even across the board so that everything drop in prices and make crafting so much easier!!! And make it so that people can put more items or stack a lot of those unstackable logs. Otherwise all those junks are gonna go NPCs and the crafters get zero benefits.

Sidegrade gears and accessories are fine and dandy but when a lot of em are so laughably bad (mantis eye...for one) - they really need to look at their priorities!! If they keep telling us they cannot do anything else but new contents for now, then they better make sure that those contents are GOOD, FUN, ENJOYABLE and WORTH doing. It really baffles me that they learn almost nothing from their previous blockbuster content -when they consider that it was a big failure and the take away is to never do anything so good and fun like that ever again because those content pleases people.

[Monchat]

Come on a trip with me!
1) Let me direct your attention to Folhardi Ring.
2) Now let me direct your attention to Keen Ring.
3) Now back to Folhardi Ring.
4) Now lets look at Excelsis Ring.
5) Aaand now lets return to Folhardi Ring.
6) Over to Demonry Ring!
7) Then Folhardi Ring one last time.

When it was released, Folhardi ring (a R/Ex drop off one of the four highest level Voidwatch fights) looked so bad compared to easy quest/NM/AH alternatives that I sworn it would have some kind of hidden effect. It has been a few weeks now, and there have been no reports of it being anything but terrible. I wish it was the only bad drop from those fights, but it isn't.

The worst part is that you littered legion with crap drops too, but people don't even care enough about the event to do it and get angry about them.

and then I bring them Mars's ring: lol.

[SpankWustler]

A player asked whether or not drop rates would be affected by Treasure Hunter, which caused some strategies to be changed around when compared to previous chapters. We can say that yes, Treasure Hunter does have an effect on loot drop rates and we plan on further increasing gear drop rates on top of this as well.

Whoa. Some aspect of something dropping somehow in some sort of Voidwatch is being increased? I feel like I may have fallen through my toilet this morning and tumbled into an alternate dimension. I always suspected it was a space-time toilet.

We feel that we have to draw a line somewhere, or else the requests would begin to get out of hand. As such, we will maintain our current system.

We understand those that would like the drop rates of scrolls to be raised, but we consider gear to be the main aspect of rewards from the final chapter of Voidwatch. Since Arise and Meteor can be obtained through other content, we will maintain their current drop rates.

The quantum space-time continuum is safe, apparently, and my bathroom likely has no preternatural qualities whatsoever beyond being haunted by my racist grandmother. Disappointing, because I was looking forward to electing a lizard-person president and growing an evil goatee and seeing drop rates in Voidwatch improve.

Weaknesses Beastmaster
It seems like opinions are split on call beasts. Seems like there are bit more calls for Gerard to be used, but we would like to continue to receive feedback.

I'd much prefer a Gerard ability over a Nazuna ability. Gerard is not level-capped and it has a magical Ready options that can not miss. I wouldn't mind the higher level jug at all, and I super-seriously doubt anyone would.

[Sparthos]

Sidegrade gears and accessories are fine and dandy but when a lot of em are so laughably bad (mantis eye...for one) - they really need to look at their priorities!! If they keep telling us they cannot do anything else but new contents for now, then they better make sure that those contents are GOOD, FUN, ENJOYABLE and WORTH doing. It really baffles me that they learn almost nothing from their previous blockbuster content -when they consider that it was a big failure and the take away is to never do anything so good and fun like that ever again because those content pleases people.

Mantis Eye is a bad example because prior to Mantis Eye the ammo slot was not a place you could stick alot of accuracy into. The forerunner to Mantis Eye was a drop off Yilbegan (Lucky Coin) which assumed you didn't get a fake that dropped logs and ingots.

Yeah.

[Karbuncle]

Considering the Majority of the jobs on Mantis eye had far better Ranged Ammo.

THF had Raider's Boomerange
DNC had Charis Feather
MNK had Empyrean Ammo or any of the STR/Attack Ammos
COR - Lol.
PUP - Lol.
RNG - Lol. F**king Seriously, COR, PUP, and RNG on an Ammo Item?
BLU - IDK enough about BLU.

Basically, Mantis Eye, regardless of offering accuracy in Ammo, Was garbage tier Garbage. If a Hate offers MP+100 MND+20 to THF, Just because its the best MND hat for THF doesn't mean its a useful item. Mantis Eye falls to the same problem. Its just garbage period.

Not a single job got a use out of Mantis Eye is what I'm trying to say, 10 Accuracy was not worth sacrificing the much better benefits that slot had to offer.

Edit: Also, Lucky Coin was one of the "Fake Yilb" Drops. It could come off the Non-Shadow.

[Asymptotic]

You don't get it. You're not always capping accuracy. When you actually NEED the accuracy, the ammo slot is a great place to sacrifice and toss in +10 from Mantis Eye. Just because YOU'RE not a good enough player to see the benefits of an accuracy build doesn't mean everyone is that short-sighted.

COR, PUP and RNG ... who knows, but BLU, DNC, and MNK all make use of Mantis Eye in accuracy builds.

[Sparthos]

Considering the Majority of the jobs on Mantis eye had far better Ranged Ammo.

THF had Raider's Boomerange
DNC had Charis Feather
MNK had Empyrean Ammo or any of the STR/Attack Ammos
COR - Lol.
PUP - Lol.
RNG - Lol. F**king Seriously, COR, PUP, and RNG on an Ammo Item?
BLU - IDK enough about BLU.

Basically, Mantis Eye, regardless of offering accuracy in Ammo, Was garbage tier Garbage. If a Hate offers MP+100 MND+20 to THF, Just because its the best MND hat for THF doesn't mean its a useful item. Mantis Eye falls to the same problem. Its just garbage period.

Not a single job got a use out of Mantis Eye is what I'm trying to say, 10 Accuracy was not worth sacrificing the much better benefits that slot had to offer.

Edit: Also, Lucky Coin was one of the "Fake Yilb" Drops. It could come off the Non-Shadow.

Mantis Eye offers accuracy whereas those pieces of ammo do not and though situations are rare where you'll need to swap said pieces for the eye, it's still a good piece in those rare situations where you need to ACC stack.

This goes doubly so for those players who think they're capping acc on everything when they aren't.

My point wasn't to defend the Mantis Eye moreso than say that while Mantis Eye has few practical applications it is a common drop and thus appropriate to be what it is.

Items like Strategema Knife, Nikko-ichimonji, Puninshing gloves or even Dhampyr sword or the aforementioned Folhardi Ring are better examples of items that stand no chance of being used, were dead on arrival and border on outright confusing. A BLU can make use of a Mantis Eye but what the fuck is a Strategema Knife gonna do?

This only gets more confusing when you compare Kaggen (relatively joke tier mob now) to petrifact battlefields (hit or miss PUG content).