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  1. #121
    Player Kysaiana's Avatar
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    Rather than getting rid of crap drops, I just wish that they stacked. Most of the time I have to toss logs or ores or what have you to make room for slightly-less-crappy-items.
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  2. #122
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    Edit: Read my post in a soothing, calm voice. lol It is not meant to sound angry, since I am not angry while I'm writing it, but it could easily come off that way:
    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post

    Some players suggested that we remove the low quality drops, or “useless” items, from the rewards at the end. We aren’t providing those lower tier rewards to cause players to be upset, and it is possible for us make it so those drops are removed and no item drops in their place instead.
    Honestly, that last line sounds like a threat. lol...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    However, if we were to replace certain items that are perceived as useless, with no drop players may feel that the loot system is bugged when they don’t receive any reward. As such, we would like to provide some sort of drop each time. Also, we have received many comments asking that the items dropped are improved slightly, but we have no plans to make any adjustments at the moment. We feel that we have to draw a line somewhere, or else the requests would begin to get out of hand. As such, we will maintain our current system.
    Crap drops = nothing.
    No drops = nothing.
    Nothing still = nothing. Do away with the logs. Saves the disappointment.

    And as far as the last thing goes, why is there even a forum if our suggestions "will begin to get out of hand". Is it like the idea that if you feed a stray cat, it will keep coming back for more? So then all of our suggestions are just glossed over because the devs feel like they can't even appease a small portion of our frustrations without being forced to give us everything we ask for? That's not how it works. Make the bad things slightly better and we'll probably be happy. Albeit there will be people always asking for more, but here's the clincher: Don't give in to the ridiculous over the top requests? I don't understand why there is a forum if they have this kind of attitude.
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  3. #123
    Player Cybernetic_Empire's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    Greetings,

    Mocchi was able to speak to the dev. team to clarify a few things in regards to the Voidwatch Final Chapter regarding loot and weaknesses.

    Some players suggested that we remove the low quality drops, or “useless” items, from the rewards at the end. We aren’t providing those lower tier rewards to cause players to be upset, and it is possible for us make it so those drops are removed and no item drops in their place instead.

    However, if we were to replace certain items that are perceived as useless, with no drop players may feel that the loot system is bugged when they don’t receive any reward. As such, we would like to provide some sort of drop each time. Also, we have received many comments asking that the items dropped are improved slightly, but we have no plans to make any adjustments at the moment. We feel that we have to draw a line somewhere, or else the requests would begin to get out of hand. As such, we will maintain our current system.
    Replace all useless drops with heavy metal plates.
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  4. #124
    Player Luvbunny's Avatar
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    I feel that they still do not get it - their roles is to create a game that appeals to their demographic player base, not the 1% minority but the 99% people who pay for the monthly subscription. None of us here is asking for insta drop on everything but some sort of ways to measure progression. Where is the ticket system? I understand they cannot just do every single request and have to draw the line somewhere, but so far they have done nothing good to improve void watch or any other content post abyssea. I know it's a bitter pill to swallow but every other content post abyssea will always be measured against it - get use to it and actually come back with a better solution if they feel that abyssea is a "failure". Giving us crap content that is 100% luck based is not the answer.
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  5. #125
    Player Windwhisper's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post

    [*]What about implementing weakness regardless of specific pets, avatars or automaton frames?
    We didn’t touch on this last time, but in terms of this function, it will be implemented. However, we have to consider if it is acceptable to place weaknesses on support jobs when it comes to adding weaknesses to SMNs and PUPs.[/LIST]
    2nd worst idea ever. worst was to make SCH obsolete. If you plan on making Voidwatch more like abyssea where you only have 4 jobs that are needed, aka WAR WHM BLM BLU then go ahead.
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  6. #126
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    Nobody does legion, not enough for anyone to even know the scrolls drop from there... That's such a poor excuse for not increasing the drop rate on provenance watcher. Yeah let me go do legion and free lot against 36 other people for the scroll. Jesus. Both of these events need some serious retooling.
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  7. #127
    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    So the dev post was actually a troll to the legion thread. We learned that meteor drops somewhere else.
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  8. #128
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    Make Prov Watcher drop Heavy Metal Plate purses... <_<;
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  9. #129
    Player Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Yeah this is borderline absurd to be honest. They basically intend to make this so called new events favor certain jobs combination - I understand they are trying to simplify things, but then stop making it complicated to begin with and needing 18-36 people if at the end you only need a few jobs to make it work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    Some players suggested that we remove the... “useless” items from the rewards at the end...

    ...we have received many comments asking that the items dropped are improved slightly, but we have no plans to make any adjustments at the moment. We feel that we have to draw a line somewhere, or else the requests would begin to get out of hand.
    Come on a trip with me!
    1) Let me direct your attention to Folhardi Ring.
    2) Now let me direct your attention to Keen Ring.
    3) Now back to Folhardi Ring.
    4) Now lets look at Excelsis Ring.
    5) Aaand now lets return to Folhardi Ring.
    6) Over to Demonry Ring!
    7) Then Folhardi Ring one last time.

    When it was released, Folhardi ring (a R/Ex drop off one of the four highest level Voidwatch fights) looked so bad compared to easy quest/NM/AH alternatives that I sworn it would have some kind of hidden effect. It has been a few weeks now, and there have been no reports of it being anything but terrible. I wish it was the only bad drop from those fights, but it isn't.

    The worst part is that you littered legion with crap drops too, but people don't even care enough about the event to do it and get angry about them.
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