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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    No No No, I'm saying I don't even need to have any azure or anything. I could just do amber and perle. You know how easy you get KI in chest in a hour alone with just pure amber? Imagine people that just afk in abyssea without needing blue chests. They could knock out 50 shells or 50 chloris buds in a day if they set their minds to it. That wouldn't be fair. If you guys are having issues with simple tasks, go play a different game. Abyssea is by far the easiest event in the game for the reward/effort ratio.
    It takes about what? 10-15 minutes to cap those lights now? so were talking about shaving maybe a few hours off of the time it takes to get 50 chloris buds? Oh my. The world will end.

    So the guys who are attempting 50 chloris in a day right now are hitting the time roadblock and giving up. Right... got it. Fun theory, but in reality it's a minor inconvenience for them and a pain in the ass for new people.

    Out of curiosity... If these are such "Simple tasks" for a non-noob like yourself, why aren't you finished yet? Why are you even in this thread? It doesn't concern people who have easily finished this super easy content right? Why do you care what the abysseans are up to?
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  2. #82
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    Stop...just stop. 255 azure, atleast 150 pearlescent, and 200 amber does not take 15 minutes in tahrongi canyon. And your completely missing the point. Removing time limits literally will shave off DAYS. Go build perle and amber and go cleave, then go build perle, amber, and azure. Then come and tell me you dont get 50% blue chests opposed to 90% gold when you only have amber light. That's a hell of a difference. And you never even have to leave the zone if you don't have TE. Meaning, you can sit on that pearle and amber lights and keep cleaving forever with just amber. You're what I call an idiot who needs shit handed to you. I want to know, do you only possess a kannagi? Why do you post on dancer threads, and nyzle isle threads when you know nothing about them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    Stop...just stop. 255 azure, atleast 150 pearlescent, and 200 amber does not take 15 minutes in tahrongi canyon.
    What are you doing with those kinda lights? For KI farm you get 255 amber on turtles in 15min and let pearl cap naturally over time. Equip melee Atma like RR, RR and Apoc, then proceed to cleave mobs to low HP with Cata, because it's very accurate, then switch to Great Axe and kill all mobs melee style. You'll get about 20~30 pearl per kill, including chests. Have your WHM mule nuke the occasional mob for azure, 16~24 azure per pull. And not until 255, but until 100+ ish, depending on what the necessary value is for your kill speed. I always get 128 because it's a nice number and I end up with a majority of gold chests and still enough blue chests to buil to over 300min in two hours. The entire light capping process takes half an hour at most, except pearl, which is still ~100 by then, but which caps naturally. And (depending on how many people help out with holding KIs) I only need three runs like these to be done, even less if they come on jobs to kill Glavoid with and do so consistently throughout the cleaving process. And I'm not talking three 24h sessions, but 3x ~5 hours, because cleaving is mind-numbingly boring and I can't do it any longer than that. Which means, even right now I finish the Glavoid stage in 20h worth of effort (including the time it takes to actually kill it, plus some overhead). So how exactly can you shave off days if the entire process takes less than one? Also, since you're apparently so smart, do tell me how our suggestion would be different?

    Here's the thing: You'd still have to cap the lights once, to farm KI with. So that 30min overhead is still there. And unless you have absolutely nothing else planned for a week, yes, you can afk in the zone and save your lights. If your LS does any other events or you wanna do any other events (like VW shouts for example), you'd still have to exit and recap your lights the next time, which I believe applies to the majority of people. The only thing that would be different is that you don't have to hurry your ass off to make the most of the limited time you have. You call it skill, but it isn't. It's a monotonous process that takes 30min (more for pearl, but after 30min you're easily safe time wise and you can start farming already), so all that it does waste your time by 30min every time you enter Abyssea. And note that that only applies to cleaving or situations in which you need certain lights, which isn't always the case. For NM camping or seal/+2 farming most people don't even bother with lights, in which the time limit is nothing more but a "reenter every 2h" limitation, which is a ridiculous limitation.

    It's like saying you can't afk in your Mog House for more than 120min, you'll have to reenter every now and then. And if you don't you get kicked out and enter for another hour and can't change job or check your dbox or anything like that. How is that challenge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    Stop...just stop. 255 azure, atleast 150 pearlescent, and 200 amber does not take 15 minutes in tahrongi canyon. And your completely missing the point. Removing time limits literally will shave off DAYS. Go build perle and amber and go cleave, then go build perle, amber, and azure. Then come and tell me you dont get 50% blue chests opposed to 90% gold when you only have amber light. That's a hell of a difference. And you never even have to leave the zone if you don't have TE. Meaning, you can sit on that pearle and amber lights and keep cleaving forever with just amber. You're what I call an idiot who needs shit handed to you. I want to know, do you only possess a kannagi? Why do you post on dancer threads, and nyzle isle threads when you know nothing about them?
    You clearly don't understand what I'm talking about, but it's cool. I get paid to sit at a computer all day, so I have plenty of time to laugh at you.

    Farming KI from gold chests solo is retarded.

    People who cleave in groups don't run out of time anyways, and thus would be unaffected by the change.

    Man you are dense. Try to keep your issues from other threads that you also don't have anything to contribute to in those respective threads.
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    This is exactly my point. How can you guys want things easier than they already are lol? You guys are arguing for something that does not need to be added in anyway, and the thousands of empies and +2 gear out there just proves it. I'm done trying to explain, you guys are right, abyssea is toooooo haaarrrddd and having TE makes it hoooorrrible. My god give us no time limit so the noobs can get stuff, pllleeeeeassseee SE. Lol sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    You guys are arguing for something that does not need to be added in anyway,
    Technically we're arguing for something to be taken away.
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    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    Lol sad.
    The only sad thing in this thread is your pea brain which appears to be constipated. I just explained how easy getting TE is, yet you still think it should be there. Zero challenge, just a time drain and annoyance. Hey, know what? This game is so easy, let's make it harder. After you log in, first your char will be terrorized for 10min before you can move. And every time you zone it will be terrorized for another 5min. What, you don't want that? Boo hoo, what a pussy, is the game too hard for you? Cry some more. Delicious tears. Lol so sad.

    (In case you couldn't tell, which I assume is very likely, I employed your logic to show you just how stupid your argument is.)
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    Seriously? ppl cant cap lights in abyssea in 120 mins? I went into abyssea today, to work on a weapon trial and had capped azure and pearly in less than 75 mins and was gettin TE's, on Darkknight. Taking the time restriction away isnt going to help you get your seals or +2 items, it will make it more difficult and you still wont get anyone to help you. I suggest you get 4 or 5 ppl like you who just came back and band together to get the items you need. No smart player in this game wants to see the time restriction taken away.
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    SOOOO lol what your saying, is because it is already so easy, why not remove the time limit so we can get stuff EVEN EASIER than it already is. Gotcha. Noobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semco View Post
    Seriously? ppl cant cap lights in abyssea in 120 mins?
    No, that's just Fupafighter, and he's agreeing with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Semco View Post
    Taking the time restriction away isnt going to help you get your seals or +2 items, it will make it more difficult and you still wont get anyone to help you.
    Why will it make it more difficult? Because you don't time out anymore? Because you don't have to waste 30min every time you enter to cap lights first? Oh and wait, if it makes it harder, isn't that what you guys wanted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Semco View Post
    No smart player in this game wants to see the time restriction taken away.
    Wrong, I'm smarter than you are and I want to see it taken away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    Gotcha.
    You didn't get a damn thing. Not that I'm surprised, though.
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