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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagagemini View Post

    Grabbing a random BLM in jeuno or a friend to stay there for hours having to refresh stones each 120min is possibly the worst idea of motivation to get someone to help you.
    if you have a BLM you cap azure => you can get TE.
    you kill NMs=> you get pearl=>you can get good coffer rate
    NMs doesnt auto pop asa they are defeated (repop timer, or need to farm pop item)=> you have time/need to kill mobs=> you get coffer

    ==> your helping BLM doesnt need to refresh stones




    Quote Originally Posted by Sagagemini View Post
    If you were that smart you should have noticed that i said i was talking about going in and out due to time restrictions.
    there is no event in ffxi without some kind of "time restriction"
    Abyssea is the less restricted area since you can easily get TE


    Quote Originally Posted by Sfchakan View Post
    As noted earlier in the thread, this is a BAD idea because it allows people to monopolize NMs, sell the drops, and prevent other people from doing the content. You want Glavoid shells? Better pay DoucheWaffleXxX and XxXSephirothCloudXxx a million for each!
    as noted earlier in this thread, people can already "monopolize NMs"
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    Last edited by hiko; 03-19-2012 at 06:56 PM.

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    On Bismark, about a week ago; a group of RMT started up on Altepa Mandragoras and have been there for a solid week and a half now, having never zoned out. Gee, I wonder what difference the RMT market would be if there was no time restriction because the RMT didn't just fell cleave a BLM up or pay someone a little something to cap lights for them and them let them stay in the zone for as long as they like?

    Or you could say that having over 10k+ minutes or something like that technically isn't "unlimited time".
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    So... what your saying is a change isn't necessary because anyone with half a brain and a couple of friends can easily earn tons of time as is?

    Gee willickers!
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    Actually, I'm all for them removing the limit, specially since it'll mean I can go in abyssea on whatever job to skill things like shield etc. without worrying about my time. Last time I tried to skill shield I got down to 15 minutes.
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    Then just... leave and add more stones? I skilled up my shield in Tahrongi and did just that. I got low on time, left, re-entered, and sacrificed my 3 stones out of hundreds stocked up at the time. Now I have over a thousand. I'd imagine anyone who doesn't do random endeavors every day like skilling up would retain a good amount of stones.
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    You gotta keep putting quarters in the abyssea machine if you want to keep playing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sfchakan View Post
    Then just... leave and add more stones? I skilled up my shield in Tahrongi and did just that. I got low on time, left, re-entered, and sacrificed my 3 stones out of hundreds stocked up at the time. Now I have over a thousand. I'd imagine anyone who doesn't do random endeavors every day like skilling up would retain a good amount of stones.
    Was that ever a question? Did you think I just stood there until I was kicked from it? I did leave out and put more stones back in, I currently have about five hundred stones. But the point of it is, it's a nuisance, I don't want to have to bother my friends to come cap azure while I go in on my PLD because it's the most effecient way to level it.
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    I think the people against this are making an incredibly faulty assumption. The stone requirement and time limit do not limit the amount of people in abyssea doing things at any given time. All it does is require us to make extra trips back and forth to renew our time. I could see if people were arguing those things in regards to lifting the dynamis 1 day limit or something, which actually does serve a purpose to keep the zones less congested... but the abyssea thing is just a hoop to jump through.

    I'm working on a Kannagi right now, for example... if I begin to run out of time, I simply warp out, grab more time, and warp back in and pick up where I left off. It doesn't limit my ability to do what I want to do, it's just an annoying speed bump. Removing it wouldn't change anybody's life, it would just make things a bit easier. This game has already been simplified to a crazy level since the 75 cap... anybody arguing against this is just being kind of douchy imo. Do you really enjoy grabbing stones? Counting minutes? Warping out and back in and then running back to where you were? Is that fun for you? If so, I guess you're in luck, because they probably won't change it. Have fun running your video game character an extra 20 minutes a trip... I'm sure you'll value that time spent when you're old and look back on your ffxi experiences.
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    i wouldn't say remove time restrictions because that's just idiotic SE put them in place for a reason to keep people under control. i would say maybe raise time restriction like perhaps double it but in that sense still seems like too much so maybe add another hour so it would be about 180 minutes instead of 120.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You gotta keep putting quarters in the abyssea machine if you want to keep playing it.
    We could always just be able to put in more quarters. If we could just add six stones on top of the saved up 120 minutes, we could be in there for about seven hours without worrying about time.
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