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    Player Godofgods's Avatar
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    What would be REALLY nice is removing the need to zone every time you finish a quest in order to repeat it.

    People are not doing them for fun, and most ppl arnt doing them for seals or anything. The reason to do them is simply fame. Most ppl that have been around already have em done. But for a new player just reaching abyssea, thats horrid. It can take up to 50 quests in some zones to cap fame. And theirs 9 zones. The amount of time spent zoning alone is alot. Theirs no real down side is moving the zone to repeat restriction. Its not like ppl getting fame quicker is going to unbalance anything.
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    No thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagagemini View Post
    Of course a dude like you that got your stuff "the easy way" with 17 ppl to help you with can't imagine how hard is to do anything in abyssea now. I would suggest you go go back to your poor social life, eating cheetos and talking about porn with you LS maes, instead of camping these forums to bash players ideas just for the sake of trying to look like a baddie and see if you can get laid somehow with someone in here.
    Your tears of mad are delicious, and I will personally enjoy the salty delicacy of every single one of them.

    I've low manned plenty in Abyssea (now, and back when it was released) and don't require 17 other people to do anything. If you were smart and did any research, you'd know that. Instead you presume to know me and 'my type' while hiding behind your computer screen spewing into the realms of personal insults.

    The fact is that people were low manning Abyssea way back when it was released - and that's not different to low manning it now. It's not impossible to grab a RDM or BLM to go help you proc yellow, there's people shouting for seals all the time. We've all started at the beginning, re-entering every so often to keep time up when it's not ideal to farm time. What's the big deal? Low manning Abyssea isn't new and hasn't changed. Just like your incessant whining hasn't changed.

    As for "bashing ideas", stating an opinion against ideas such as "put Reraise III on an NPC" or "remove the time limit from Abyssea" isn't bashing them. I'm pleased that you're so offended by my opinion though.

    The rest of your post was irrelevant.

    Edit: Just checked your FFXIAH profile. That explains everything.
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    Last edited by Dazusu; 03-18-2012 at 10:03 AM.

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    I love how people who have social skills and were able to get groups of people to team up with them are described as losers. Hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazusu View Post
    There are so many reasons why time restrictions removal would be a stupid idea. Not to mention the lure of Abyssea.

    People would idle in there 24 hours a day, botting your favourite NMs like Gukumatz. The zones would become congested. If you don't have any friends - that sucks for you. Level BST
    This doesn't seem like a balanced statement, what are the many issues, i see a few spamming sobek to finish a weapon. you'd remove fell cleave congestions too... better defined points especially properly using "many" would be nice
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    I have the final form of Aegis, it has 40 Def Augments Shield bash V and Magic Damage Taken -45%... The ultimate form!

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    Player Juilan's Avatar
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    It's been said by a few people. Having to restone, even with over a thousand is just a motivation killer, I hate 1)having to find a mage that can effectively kill things to help me cap azure and 2)having to constantly farm to to stay in. I want to help my friends who haven't played for a while with getting their abyssea stuff but when it comes to worrying my time, and especially theirs. I wouldn't, and I'm many other people on this game wouldn't, spend more time in abyssea if they had unlimited time. I'd actually spend less time in abyssea if i didn't have to worry about time, wouldn't have to cap amber every 110min or redo my pearl, i wouldnt have to worry about warping out, i wouldnt have to run to ever i was (confluxes may be quick but can still add about 3 to 5min of time you could be doing an NM.

    Further more, I've had to sit in abyssea and wait for 18 people pop NMs in abyssea before, and i strongly doubt congestion will get to that point even without a time restriction... but even if it did i wouldn't have to warp out or time out mid NM fight when i could finally pop the freaking thing. There was nothing more FRUSTRATING not CHANGELING then having to wait to for 18 people to pop something when you have time ticking down... And if you think I'm being a sissy and feel like telling me to suck it up go wait in a doctor's office for an hour and a half when you have to be seen for an electrical burn and having to pay a fee for waiting room usage.
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    Last edited by Juilan; 03-18-2012 at 10:41 AM.
    I have the final form of Aegis, it has 40 Def Augments Shield bash V and Magic Damage Taken -45%... The ultimate form!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juilan View Post
    I want to help my friends who haven't played for a while with getting their abyssea stuff but when it comes to worrying my time, and especially theirs.
    I agree with a lot of your points, particularly this one. I still feel that changing everything which is felt as a small inconvenience is bad for the game. Abyssea is what it is, and has a time limit for a reason. It inconveniences sometimes, but that's all part of the several dimensions of Abyssea.
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    Last edited by Dazusu; 03-18-2012 at 11:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinato View Post
    The point is nobody does that stuff anymore, it won't become congested because most players have several +1/+2. Hell, in my case I have 82/100 +1, 6 jobs that can even use it (30/100) and 52 extra +1 from nothing else but free drops in empyrean runs. Same holds true for several +2 (though not as many as +1) The point I'm getting at is those areas are dead. Besides, cut time limits and you could just as easily gold farm as fight the NM since there is no fear of timing out should you not be able to TE or it goes sour. Besides most solo classes can't solo TE at such an abundant rate, THF DNC BST and so on, plus TE drains while you are logged out, and heaven forbid if you die w/o rr.

    The issue also isn't about lack of time from stones, rather the need to reset them for a soloer or small group. Dropping lights every so often undermines the use of gold chests for KI making soloers need to get the NM actually Increasing congestion. (if you can call it that anymore)

    As far as I can tell aside from brand new players who haven't built stones there is 0 reason this would be detrimental. Is it critical? No. Would it help? Yes. Would it hurt anyone/thing No.
    Because the FFXI playerbase is completely static and nobody levels jobs they don't have. You want unlimited time? I'll let you in on a secret. Don't tell anyone okay?

    You get a red mage and a warrior to fell cleave with capped lights. People coming in/out of the zones can get their time out without much effort.

    Because that's what you lack right? Effort?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagagemini View Post
    Of course a dude like you that got your stuff "the easy way" with 17 ppl to help you with can't imagine how hard is to do anything in abyssea now.
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    Yes i even agree that just removing the time might be harsh but something has to be done to adjust abyssea to its new reality. Though that idiot above mentioned about having a BST to solo (and of course he lacks intelligence to know that you need to proc yellow...
    ^^^ I'm sorry, but this guy is F'ing hilarious. The mad is obscenely high!

    Two points:
    1) Who enters Abyssea with 17 people. Further, who enters Abyssea with more than 3 people?

    2) The lack of knowledge of game mechanics and how things actually work is astounding. I solod 100% of BST RNG NIN and DRK seals with BST solo, without yellow procs.

    Question for you: Have you ever even been in Abyssea? Your extreme lack of how things work inside there has made me think maybe you have not.

    PS- LOL@End Game Linkshell hate in 2012
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapao View Post
    Because the FFXI playerbase is completely static and nobody levels jobs they don't have. You want unlimited time? I'll let you in on a secret. Don't tell anyone okay?

    You get a red mage and a warrior to fell cleave with capped lights. People coming in/out of the zones can get their time out without much effort.

    Because that's what you lack right? Effort?
    My only question is would adding this hurt you in some way? No tricks, I'm just looking for yes or no and preferably a small amount of justification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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