Suggestion: Remove Abyssea Time restrictions

[Sagagemini]

Hello SE Devs. I returned to FFXI after some months and unfortunately found myself far away from the majority of the server. Most players now don't even bother anymore with Abyssea farming for +1 and +2, specially Linkshells where these things get done efficiently.

Of course asking for players to change their attention to Abyssea at this time is pointless so i would like to ask any SE representative to start really considering the idea of removing the time limit inside Abyssea. While it might have served its purpose at launch, now with much less players interested in it, it became a painful experience to try to go there and deal with smaller things by yourself.

While you can always go for TE in groups, or abyssite farming it still doesn't help to solve the major problem that is having to fight not against mobs, the lack of proccing and horrible drops as a solo or duo player, but the fight against time and having to teleport countless times in and out. It gets tiring.

Its a major let down not only for new Abyssea players, but even for those like myself, who wants to acquire +2 items but can't rely on LS anymore (random groups are not an option due to most of them being fail). Endgame shells are onto newer things and social shells are just chat.

To those players who advanced from Abyssea this doesn't matter anymore. But for those who are still there struggling for gear with less players caring to help and needing stuff there the time limit is a huge issue now. Either increase the time limit inside from 120min to 240 at least or just remove it altogether.


Thank you for reading.

[lllen]

Or let us keep the extra minutes we do acquire when we are with a group. I hate loosing all that extra time. But I agree, time is crazy when you are soloing and its not as easy to get te's.

[Arcon]

I wouldn't even say that it isn't easy (because it is), but it simply isn't needed anymore. Time simply isn't restricted, because everyone has a shitload of stones ready. And in a FC you get several hours overtime easily, too. The only thing the Abyssea time restriction does currently is to annoy people because they have to reenter all the time. Unless they find another use for traverser stones (like exchanging them for voidstones, for example), there is just no need to be restricted by the arbitrary stone mechanic anymore.

[Dazusu]

There are so many reasons why time restrictions removal would be a stupid idea. Not to mention the lure of Abyssea.

People would idle in there 24 hours a day, botting your favourite NMs like Gukumatz. The zones would become congested. If you don't have any friends - that sucks for you. Level BST

[Arcon]

People would idle in there 24 hours a day, botting your favourite NMs like Gukumatz. The zones would become congested.

As opposed to now? The few people who still want or need stuff from there are already there, all day, every day, and it's no problem, because everyone has hundreds of stones to waste. The only exception is the occasional timeout when people forgot to check their time. Speaking of which, they should remove or reduce the re-entry time too.

[Zinato]

There are so many reasons why time restrictions removal would be a stupid idea. Not to mention the lure of Abyssea.

People would idle in there 24 hours a day, botting your favourite NMs like Gukumatz. The zones would become congested. If you don't have any friends - that sucks for you. Level BST

The point is nobody does that stuff anymore, it won't become congested because most players have several +1/+2. Hell, in my case I have 82/100 +1, 6 jobs that can even use it (30/100) and 52 extra +1 from nothing else but free drops in empyrean runs. Same holds true for several +2 (though not as many as +1) The point I'm getting at is those areas are dead. Besides, cut time limits and you could just as easily gold farm as fight the NM since there is no fear of timing out should you not be able to TE or it goes sour. Besides most solo classes can't solo TE at such an abundant rate, THF DNC BST and so on, plus TE drains while you are logged out, and heaven forbid if you die w/o rr.

The issue also isn't about lack of time from stones, rather the need to reset them for a soloer or small group. Dropping lights every so often undermines the use of gold chests for KI making soloers need to get the NM actually Increasing congestion. (if you can call it that anymore)

As far as I can tell aside from brand new players who haven't built stones there is 0 reason this would be detrimental. Is it critical? No. Would it help? Yes. Would it hurt anyone/thing No.

[Dazusu]

The point is nobody does that stuff anymore.

I didn't read the rest of your post, because you made my point right here.

Having the time limit adds a bit of a challenge. Balancing the capping of lights / farming time and with farming your desired items. Some jobs can do it solo, some might need to duo.

Inb4 the casual parade: "Wasting time farming lights isn't a challenge, it's a time sink" yeah, we've heard it before.

hmmmm lure or lore..?

You got me there. Good call :-)

[Sagagemini]

I didn't read the rest of your post, because you made my point right here.

Having the time limit adds a bit of a challenge. Balancing the capping of lights / farming time and with farming your desired items. Some jobs can do it solo, some might need to duo.

Inb4 the casual parade: "Wasting time farming lights isn't a challenge, it's a time sink" yeah, we've heard it before.




You got me there. Good call :-)

What challenge if you got all your stuff with the help of your LS mates? I'm talking about new players, the fresh air of the game that must keep coming and find themselves alone having to deal with TE and procs on a 120min timer.

If you were that smart you should have noticed that i said i was talking about going in and out due to time restrictions. I never mentioned the lack of stones to reenter. You are like many in this game just another retard sitting in an endgame shell spitting your ignorance over others on subjects that you have no idea.

Of course a dude like you that got your stuff "the easy way" with 17 ppl to help you with can't imagine how hard is to do anything in abyssea now. I would suggest you go go back to your poor social life, eating cheetos and talking about porn with you LS maes, instead of camping these forums to bash players ideas just for the sake of trying to look like a baddie and see if you can get laid somehow with someone in here.

Go back to your mother basement.


To others that did positive criticism:

Yes i even agree that just removing the time might be harsh but something has to be done to adjust abyssea to its new reality. Though that idiot above mentioned about having a BST to solo (and of course he lacks intelligence to know that you need to proc yellow, since he got everything from his LS with tons of ppl helping) we all know this isn't enough.

Grabbing a random BLM in jeuno or a friend to stay there for hours having to refresh stones each 120min is possibly the worst idea of motivation to get someone to help you.

I understand that the elitist pricks who have no social life (bragging about having hardmode when they have it easier with other ppl helping) and live with their mothers will always infest these forums like they do in game but i would like to SE to ignore these guys since your playerbase is made from much more than these bad players.


I wont bite in for new trolls. Fact is:

- New players or those who lost the Abyssea bandwagon find themselves having not only a hard time to get items in Abyssea (like it would be normal and expected) but they have it extremely annoying due to the new reality of Linkshells barely doing this content, not having procs and on top of that having to get in and out every 120min, which basically KILLS motivation to keep going after your 3rd failed drop from a mob that you need to farm 3 KI.

Please, SE for the sake of new players or those who missed the "easy way through 18 ppl abyssea" adjust the time limit so this event appeals for us, older content must be a right for every player, hard as it mus be to get drops, but at least not irritating.

You remade Dynamis all over for +2 items. You can do the same with Abyssea that all these creeps that shoot their poison in this thread don't do anymore.

[Dazusu]

Of course a dude like you that got your stuff "the easy way" with 17 ppl to help you with can't imagine how hard is to do anything in abyssea now. I would suggest you go go back to your poor social life, eating cheetos and talking about porn with you LS maes, instead of camping these forums to bash players ideas just for the sake of trying to look like a baddie and see if you can get laid somehow with someone in here.

Your tears of mad are delicious, and I will personally enjoy the salty delicacy of every single one of them.

I've low manned plenty in Abyssea (now, and back when it was released) and don't require 17 other people to do anything. If you were smart and did any research, you'd know that. Instead you presume to know me and 'my type' while hiding behind your computer screen spewing into the realms of personal insults.

The fact is that people were low manning Abyssea way back when it was released - and that's not different to low manning it now. It's not impossible to grab a RDM or BLM to go help you proc yellow, there's people shouting for seals all the time. We've all started at the beginning, re-entering every so often to keep time up when it's not ideal to farm time. What's the big deal? Low manning Abyssea isn't new and hasn't changed. Just like your incessant whining hasn't changed.

As for "bashing ideas", stating an opinion against ideas such as "put Reraise III on an NPC" or "remove the time limit from Abyssea" isn't bashing them. I'm pleased that you're so offended by my opinion though.

The rest of your post was irrelevant.

Edit: Just checked your FFXIAH profile. That explains everything.

[Shadowsong]

Of course a dude like you that got your stuff "the easy way" with 17 ppl to help you with can't imagine how hard is to do anything in abyssea now.
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Yes i even agree that just removing the time might be harsh but something has to be done to adjust abyssea to its new reality. Though that idiot above mentioned about having a BST to solo (and of course he lacks intelligence to know that you need to proc yellow...

^^^ I'm sorry, but this guy is F'ing hilarious. The mad is obscenely high!

Two points:
1) Who enters Abyssea with 17 people. Further, who enters Abyssea with more than 3 people?

2) The lack of knowledge of game mechanics and how things actually work is astounding. I solod 100% of BST RNG NIN and DRK seals with BST solo, without yellow procs.

Question for you: Have you ever even been in Abyssea? Your extreme lack of how things work inside there has made me think maybe you have not.

PS- LOL@End Game Linkshell hate in 2012