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    Even if you were right in that post (you're not), you're ignoring that your previous calculations are waaaaaay off. For instance, you said 1 dex makes a 600 dmg difference. That is insane. And if that was somehow true, it would prove the point that you need to gear swap for WSs to not suck (you add more than 1 dex in your ws gear).

    You're also ignoring the fact that you don't understand %s at all. Everytime you bring them up, you do them ass backwards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    Noones commented on the percents yet? 5,000,000 is only a 20% increase from 1,000,000? Come on guys.
    The math (from my calculator): 1,000,000*100/5,000,000=20% (and in reverse) 1,000,000*100/20=5,000,000

    This isn't anything but simple proportion.

    But hey, if you want to make the case that people waste even more on very minor improvements? Be my guest.
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    You realize that relatively close estimations of VWNM stats based on known stats are accurate enough to be used for maths right? That you can get a completely accurate value for mob VIT/DEF with enough tests? Can your brain grasp this concept? You assuming to condemn BG Wiki for being wrong in its equations is absolutely laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    Even if you were right in that post (you're not), you're ignoring that your previous calculations are waaaaaay off. For instance, you said 1 dex makes a 600 dmg difference. That is insane. And if that was somehow true, it would prove the point that you need to gear swap for WSs to not suck (you add more than 1 dex in your ws gear).
    I said that DEX (as far as CDC is concerned) DEX modifier is 60%, which I take to mean that for every point of damage there's an additional .60 damage for every point of DEX. Do you have a reliable equation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell
    You're also ignoring the fact that you don't understand %s at all. Everytime you bring them up, you do them ass backwards.
    That may be so, I never did like working with percents.


    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell
    It's ok to be wrong about something, I've been wrong plenty. When it happens, just say oops and move on.
    I am wrong, most likely. I'm probably working with the wrong numbers and equations, but there doesn't seem to be anything reliable out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    I said that DEX (as far as CDC is concerned) DEX modifier is 60%, which I take to mean that for every point of damage there's an additional .60 damage for every point of DEX. Do you have a reliable equation?
    Do you have a brain?

    At 99, WSC = floor(floor((a x a%) + (b x b%)) x 0.85) this has been known for five years or more. Mathematical functions do not change that quickly, or ever.
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    WTH did i just read... dear god...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nala View Post
    WTH did i just read... dear god...
    A steadfast denial of mathematics.
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    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar View Post
    You realize that relatively close estimations of VWNM stats based on known stats are accurate enough to be used for maths right? That you can get a completely accurate value for mob VIT/DEF with enough tests? Can your brain grasp this concept? You assuming to condemn BG Wiki for being wrong in its equations is absolutely laughable.
    Where on this page do you see Akvan's VIT/DEF stated in any aspect? Or any other stats for that mater? It's HP/MP? Anything? Oh, yeah. Those aren't known.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar
    When the first hole gets too deep, try to dig another to draw attention from the first.
    Beats keep on digging in the first hole. By the way have you heard that first rule about holes? When you're in one... stop digging Prothscar.
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    Last edited by Trisscar; 04-21-2012 at 05:35 AM.

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    yeah... just my brain's having a hard time processing the whole of this thread is all... anyways back to lurking for me.

    or not, LOL he needs to keep digging? quit while your in last place, they're about to lap you.
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    Player Prothscar's Avatar
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    You're attempting to discredit information that's been concrete and accepted by 99% of the population for five years+, you're the one in the position of requiring proof.

    Unlike you, I have an IQ higher than that of a goldfish, and thus can facilitate some level of certainty over an average VWNM's stats. Nowhere in my calculations did I mention Akvan. You're grasping at straws and attempting to materialize an argument that doesn't even exist because you're wrong and cannot accept it. Just shut the fuck up so we can all save some brain cells.
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