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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    That depends, is their full time complete rubbish when better gear is easily available? Than yeah, I'd agree they are noobs. Is their gear the result of blood sweat and tears? Than you are worse than a noob for calling them a noob. Get over yourself already.
    Full-timing gear leads to performance being complete rubbish, so yes not swapping gear when you've been made aware of the benefits it offers makes you a noob.

    There are no gear sets that are acceptable to full-time on any job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar View Post
    Ok so you don't know what an average is or how basic probability works. Good to know.
    As a matter of fact I do. If something is an average you should expect to see it 50% of the time or more. In a rational world. But apparently you've forgotten one minor detail: Squaresuck made the game and they like to stack the deck.
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    ...thanks for once again proving that you don't know what an average is. You don't seem to realize that I incorporated all of the randomizers as averages as well, meaning that is the average damage after randomization. This further cements the fact that you are talking out of your ass.... not like we needed more evidence.
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    Last edited by Prothscar; 04-21-2012 at 03:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    As a matter of fact I do. If something is an average you should expect to see it 50% of the time or more.
    Oh dear...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    As a matter of fact I do. If something is an average you should expect to see it 50% of the time or more. In a rational world. But apparently you've forgotten one minor detail: Squaresuck made the game and they like to stack the deck.
    Please stop posting.
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    Noones commented on the percents yet? 5,000,000 is only a 20% increase from 1,000,000? Come on guys.
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    Missed that tbh, there's so much idiocy for me to process that my brain is blocking some of it out.
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    Dear Trisscar,

    I'd like to give you some heartfelt advice. You should really consider the possibility that you might be mistaken about a few things. I've seen you state a number of points, including inaccurate mathematical arguments, as though they were true and correct. And while certain parts of the argument you are attempting to defend are indeed matters of personal opinion (and thereby up for debate, even if you are in the minority), defending them adequately is virtually impossible if you are attempting to back up your arguments with "facts" that are mathematically and logically false.

    You aren't helping your cause at this point. You may want to step back, calm down, actually accept that your understanding of things might be a bit off, and ask people to explain them to you. Once you have your numbers right (and your general understanding of math has improved) then from there, you can choose to continue to argue your personal opinion, or perhaps (*gasp*) even find you may want to modify it in light of your new found information.

    In either case, continuing to staunchly defend your opinion, with examples that clearly indicate that you severely lack the understanding of how math works, is just making you seem ignorant. You don't really want people to think you are ignorant, do you? Of course not.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    Seen that a long time ago, but hey let's take a good look at it and see just why it's wrong:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegatr
    Physical WS Damage Calculation:
    WD: Base damage of your WS
    D: Base damage of your weapon (e.g., Espadon = 43)
    fSTR: difference between your STR and target's VIT. This can be capped (see below).
    WSC: Secondary attribute like STR_30 (30% of your STR).
    fTP: Multiplier (Please see chart below).
    PDIF: (your ATK/target’s DEF) Caps at 2.4 for melee attacks and 3 for ranged attacks.
    Let's focus on fSTR, the difference between your STR and your target's (as in the mob's) VIT. Let me clarify just why this particular part of the equation is flat out wrong: Show me the link where (say) Akvan's VIT is shown with any certainty. Can't do that? How about the one with the book's (that which I cheerfully call Necronomicon) VIT? Can't do that either? How about Voidwrought's? Any of the LWNM? Any mob at all? Can't do that?

    Want to know why? Because they're not known. The entire equation (while well thought out) has an unknowable unknown, thus it's unreliable. Which also applies to the part with pDIF, because since all other attributes can only be guestimated on the equation is worthless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinius View Post
    Dear Trisscar,

    I'd like to give you some heartfelt advice. You should really consider the possibility that you might be mistaken about a few things. I've seen you state a number of points, including inaccurate mathematical arguments, as though they were true and correct. And while certain parts of the argument you are attempting to defend are indeed matters of personal opinion (and thereby up for debate, even if you are in the minority), defending them adequately is virtually impossible if you are attempting to back up your arguments with "facts" that are mathematically and logically false.

    You aren't helping your cause at this point. You may want to step back, calm down, actually accept that your understanding of things might be a bit off, and ask people to explain them to you. Once you have your numbers right (and your general understanding of math has improved) then from there, you can choose to continue to argue your personal opinion, or perhaps (*gasp*) even find you may want to modify it in light of your new found information.

    In either case, continuing to staunchly defend your opinion, with examples that clearly indicate that you severely lack the understanding of how math works, is just making you seem ignorant. You don't really want people to think you are ignorant, do you? Of course not.
    It would help if I had information that isn't five years out of date and based upon unknowns like Akvan's VIT and DEF. If you have some accurate equations I'll be happy to look at them.
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