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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    "They're doing it wrong" is still an elitist statement unless they're not even making the attempt to do what they can with what they have. What part of that do you have problem understanding?
    The only scenario in which no gear swapping would constitute "doing what they can with what they have" is one in which they only have 16 pieces of gear at their disposal, in which case they're not trying in the first place, and are therefor "doing it wrong" anyway.


    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    You say this than fail to provide the equations to help me improve my math on it? You fail.
    Google is hard? Your refusal to take steps to educate yourself speaks volumes about you as a player, but here, have a link and become better acquainted with how completely and totally ignorant you are regarding the math behind the game: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Weapon_Skill_Damage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar View Post
    I was hoping to avoid it since you seem the sensitive type, but since you want it so bad...
    Heh, I've been called insensitive so much but really thanks from sparing my sensitives so far.



    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar
    No, they're a noob for not swapping gear. As are you. Get over it and improve yourself.
    That depends, is their full time complete rubbish when better gear is easily available? Than yeah, I'd agree they are noobs. Is their gear the result of blood sweat and tears? Than you are worse than a noob for calling them a noob. Get over yourself already.





    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar
    CDC gear off of the AH is adequate until you obtain more advanced piece and costs under 750k for all of it if that.
    Depends on your definitions of adequate and advanced. Your head piece is prime example. If you bought it recently than you got ripped off for 20% more than what it's worth for very minor improvements in areas you probably didn't need them in to begin with. But since you're an elitist (remember what I say about those?) you probably paid for it as soon as it came out in which case you have my condolences for getting jacked.






    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar
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    A 74% increase of damage, and I doubt the mob even noticed it (with HP well in excess of 10,000). Oh yeah, let's not forget the fact that Squaresuck likes to stack the deck and you'll be lucky to get the base damage constantly, never mind the high damage like 4,000 damage I have sometimes (but rarely) seen on CDC (even before I spent a week of grueling labor over what little time I had on spring break getting what ws swap gear I have but still need to work on).

    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar
    It has affected how effective you are at playing by a considerable amount, and on more than just Chant du Cygne. Every action you do is dwarfed by doing those actions in TP gear. Expect to be bitched at for playing so grossly inadequately, as it is a major difference in performance.
    I'll be remembering that next time I'm stun tanking Brieus and fail to take even take a single point of damage. Which I have done. Before I even gotten the TP gear. You're argument is invalid.
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  3. #33
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    Just stop posting, you're making yourself look dumber and dumber each time you decide to speak your mind.

    If you honestly believe what you're saying, then I genuinely pity you. Doing more damage isn't effective because a monster has more HP? Do you realize how contradictory that is? Do you know what an average is? Are you a squirrel?
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    Last edited by Prothscar; 04-21-2012 at 03:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar View Post
    Just stop posting, you're making yourself look dumber and dumber each time you decide to speak your mind.

    If you honestly believe what you're saying, then I genuinely pity you.
    Address the argument, not the arguer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar
    Doing more damage isn't effective because a monster has more HP?
    Isn't effective because the damage isn't consistent, or more pronounced than what it is.

    The average (if you're lucky to get it) only does about 3.4% of damage on a LW mob with 50,000 HP. Which isn't far removed from the damage from ws in TP gear (3%, rounded up). Oh yeah, color me impressed. It gets worse from there as many LW mobs have in excess of 100,000 HP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar
    Do you realize how contradictory that is? Do you know what an average is? Are you a squirrel?
    Trisscar.
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    Last edited by Trisscar; 04-21-2012 at 03:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    A 74% increase of damage, and I doubt the mob even noticed it (with HP well in excess of 10,000). Oh yeah, let's not forget the fact that Squaresuck likes to stack the deck and you'll be lucky to get the base damage constantly, never mind the high damage like 4,000 damage I have sometimes (but rarely) seen on CDC (even before I spent a week of grueling labor over what little time I had on spring break getting what ws swap gear I have but still need to work on).
    So you only Weapon Skill once per fight on Voidwatch mobs, Legion mobs, HNMs, etc.

    Got it.
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    ITT Briareus is hard and requires a ton of skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    Address the argument, not the arguer.
    The argument is retarded. I've already countered your claims that make 0 logical sense and are based in 0 fact with actual mathematics and game mechanics that have been known for years now.
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    Several times have I tried to make a post replying to this jibberish, but I've failed every time. I don't even know where to start.

    I'll say one thing though: if your examples and eyeballed/manually calculated numbers are all from abyssea, they mean nothing. There's more to this game than abyssea, atmas and cruor buffs, just in case you didn't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    The average (if you're lucky to get it) only does about 3.4% of damage on a LW mob with 50,000 HP.
    Ok so you don't know what an average is or how basic probability works. Good to know. You also don't appear to have common sense enough to realize that more damage is more beneficial than less damage... I don't know how that's possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynchilles View Post
    So you only Weapon Skill once per fight on Voidwatch mobs, Legion mobs, HNMs, etc.

    Got it.
    Haven't tackled Legion yet (the demand isn't there on the server) and I used to not engage LW mobs at all (I got trapped into the proc only mind set), and I can't think of the last time I even seen an HNM.

    Do I ws, sc or spam spells? The depends on on the demands of the moment. You know, this little known thing called listening to you leader? Apparently that's important. As opposed to simply doing what ever you want.
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