New to Blu and have a few questions... (can't find answers)

[Trisscar]

Yes, because it's easy to label others as elitists when they give suggestions to increase performance.

Giving suggestions is one thing, calling them an outright noob for not swapping is a different thing entirely.

Now you look at someone who's not swapping gear and telling them they're doing it wrong than you yourself are 'doing it wrong' in your approach. Like for example, up to a weak ago I didn't swap into ws gear because it simply didn't exist for me. Up to that point I simply ws in my TP geap (at the time of this posting Homam Hand & feet, Mavi head, legs & body +2 plus the same accessories as Prothscar) and got some respectable numbers. My numbers are better now (and I am still missing a few pieces) but I'm not going to start shouting on non-swappers "You're doing it wrong!" unless it's readily apparent they're not even attempting to do more with less.

See the difference?

Whether it's reasonable or not it's still completely depending on your POV. If you think NQ is good enough, go for it. If you want best performance, do HQ. I don't see a problem to suggest HQ/more expensive items for those who wants to have better performance.

Not taking into account the cap factor, CDC has a 60% DEX modifier. That means that if you hit CDC and it would do 1000 dmg by itself, you're doing 1600 dmg due to that 1 DEX. That's a respectable increase in dmg, I'll admit but considering such things like the massive amounts of HP that LWNM possess that practically require squeezing every dmg point out it's a drop in the bucket and really not worth it.

Same for gear swap, if you think your performance is good without gear swap, go ahead, but there are going to be ppl disagree with you and refuse to pt with you, that's just the way it goes. Either accept that fact and don't pt with "elitists" or change the way you play, simple.

For the most part the change to gear swap hasn't changed the way I play or how effective I am at playing (neither do I forget that I'm playing a game) and elitists don't bother me any.

[Prothscar]

I see. And since you didn't address any of my points or provide evidence proving me wrong I guess that means you're automatically right? Only in your dreams.

I was hoping to avoid it since you seem the sensitive type, but since you want it so bad...

Giving suggestions is one thing, calling them an outright noob for not swapping is a different thing entirely.

No, they're a noob for not swapping gear. As are you. Get over it and improve yourself.

Now you look at someone who's not swapping gear and telling them they're doing it wrong than you yourself are 'doing it wrong' in your approach. Like for example, up to a weak ago I didn't swap into ws gear because it simply didn't exist for me.

That's your own fault. CDC gear off of the AH is adequate until you obtain more advanced piece and costs under 750k for all of it if that.

Up to that point I simply ws in my TP geap (at the time of this posting Homam Hand & feet, Mavi head, legs & body +2 plus the same accessories as Prothscar) and got some respectable numbers. My numbers are better now (and I am still missing a few pieces) but I'm not going to start shouting on non-swappers "You're doing it wrong!" unless it's readily apparent they're not even attempting to do more with less.

See the difference?

"Respectable numbers"? Let's see exactly what numbers you were able to hit in that gear. We'll assume an average VWNM or so and that you're subbing NIN like you recently suggested that you do. I don't know what level Almace you have, but we'll assume 90. Since it's a VWNM, we'll assume Braver's Drink, Champion's Tonic and Stalwart's Tonic.

P: Lv99, 117STR, 120DEX, 822ATK, 13%DA, 3%TA, 55% Critical Hit Rate
M: Lv110, 115VIT, 500DEF

D: 61
fSTR: 6
WSC: 68
fTP: 5.6222
Avg pDIF: 1.62599342135

Base: 758
Final Avg: 1293






P: Lv99, 141STR, 162DEX, 916ATK, 17%DA, 6%TA, 65% Critical Hit Rate
M: Lv110, 115VIT, 500DEF

D: 61
fSTR: 7
WSC: 82
fTP: 5.8096
Avg pDIF: 1.9053407893

Base: 871
Final Avg: 1742



Math:
(61 + 6 + 68) * 5.6222 = 758
758 * 1.62599342135 = 1232
1232 * 1.025 = 1262
1262 * 1.025 = 1293



(61 + 7 + 82) * 5.8096 = 871
871 * 1.9053407893 = 1659
1659 * 1.025 = 1700
1700 * 1.025 = 1742


A difference of 449 damage on average between WSing in TP set and a proper WS set, maximums show even greater levels of difference. 729 maximum damage difference.

Not taking into account the cap factor, CDC has a 60% DEX modifier.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

That means that if you hit CDC and it would do 1000 dmg by itself, you're doing 1600 dmg due to that 1 DEX. That's a respectable increase in dmg, I'll admit but considering such things like the massive amounts of HP that LWNM possess that practically require squeezing every dmg point out it's a drop in the bucket and really not worth it.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

For the most part the change to gear swap hasn't changed the way I play or how effective I am at playing (neither do I forget that I'm playing a game) and elitists don't bother me any.

It has affected how effective you are at playing by a considerable amount, and on more than just Chant du Cygne. Every action you do is dwarfed by doing those actions in TP gear. Expect to be bitched at for playing so grossly inadequately, as it is a major difference in performance.

[Trisscar]

I was hoping to avoid it since you seem the sensitive type, but since you want it so bad...

Heh, I've been called insensitive so much but really thanks from sparing my sensitives so far.

No, they're a noob for not swapping gear. As are you. Get over it and improve yourself.

That depends, is their full time complete rubbish when better gear is easily available? Than yeah, I'd agree they are noobs. Is their gear the result of blood sweat and tears? Than you are worse than a noob for calling them a noob. Get over yourself already.

CDC gear off of the AH is adequate until you obtain more advanced piece and costs under 750k for all of it if that.

Depends on your definitions of adequate and advanced. Your head piece is prime example. If you bought it recently than you got ripped off for 20% more than what it's worth for very minor improvements in areas you probably didn't need them in to begin with. But since you're an elitist (remember what I say about those?) you probably paid for it as soon as it came out in which case you have my condolences for getting jacked.

Final Avg: 1293
Final Avg: 1742

A 74% increase of damage, and I doubt the mob even noticed it (with HP well in excess of 10,000). Oh yeah, let's not forget the fact that Squaresuck likes to stack the deck and you'll be lucky to get the base damage constantly, never mind the high damage like 4,000 damage I have sometimes (but rarely) seen on CDC (even before I spent a week of grueling labor over what little time I had on spring break getting what ws swap gear I have but still need to work on).

It has affected how effective you are at playing by a considerable amount, and on more than just Chant du Cygne. Every action you do is dwarfed by doing those actions in TP gear. Expect to be bitched at for playing so grossly inadequately, as it is a major difference in performance.

I'll be remembering that next time I'm stun tanking Brieus and fail to take even take a single point of damage. Which I have done. Before I even gotten the TP gear. You're argument is invalid.

[Lynchilles]

A 74% increase of damage, and I doubt the mob even noticed it (with HP well in excess of 10,000). Oh yeah, let's not forget the fact that Squaresuck likes to stack the deck and you'll be lucky to get the base damage constantly, never mind the high damage like 4,000 damage I have sometimes (but rarely) seen on CDC (even before I spent a week of grueling labor over what little time I had on spring break getting what ws swap gear I have but still need to work on).

So you only Weapon Skill once per fight on Voidwatch mobs, Legion mobs, HNMs, etc.

Got it.

[Trisscar]

So you only Weapon Skill once per fight on Voidwatch mobs, Legion mobs, HNMs, etc.

Got it.

Haven't tackled Legion yet (the demand isn't there on the server) and I used to not engage LW mobs at all (I got trapped into the proc only mind set), and I can't think of the last time I even seen an HNM.

Do I ws, sc or spam spells? The depends on on the demands of the moment. You know, this little known thing called listening to you leader? Apparently that's important. As opposed to simply doing what ever you want.

[Tamoa]

Several times have I tried to make a post replying to this jibberish, but I've failed every time. I don't even know where to start.

I'll say one thing though: if your examples and eyeballed/manually calculated numbers are all from abyssea, they mean nothing. There's more to this game than abyssea, atmas and cruor buffs, just in case you didn't know.

[cidbahamut]

That depends, is their full time complete rubbish when better gear is easily available? Than yeah, I'd agree they are noobs. Is their gear the result of blood sweat and tears? Than you are worse than a noob for calling them a noob. Get over yourself already.

Full-timing gear leads to performance being complete rubbish, so yes not swapping gear when you've been made aware of the benefits it offers makes you a noob.

There are no gear sets that are acceptable to full-time on any job.

[Kitkat]

Not taking into account the cap factor, CDC has a 60% DEX modifier. That means that if you hit CDC and it would do 1000 dmg by itself, you're doing 1600 dmg due to that 1 DEX.

Someones math is defunk since you've somehow come to this conclusion. You're making it sound like the dex modifier it s 600% instead of 60% by this comment alone. I suggest you take a look at BGwiki and learn how to math out projected WS damage. Either that or learn how to do the equation right....cause I can't figure how you even came up with this without putting the modifier in the wrong spot of the equation.

On the stance of "swapping is for elitest" I don't know how you come to this conclusion based on the fact every job in the game has a need to swap for one reason or another. Every job I play blinks in an out from gear swaps based on what I'm doing be it TP, WS, different WS, spell casting, magical spell casting. Side by side to a blu who does minimal swaps (or none at all) my damage easily surpasses theirs for the simple fact gear to increase the potential was put on.

It isn't elitist, it is proven fact that performance increases as you gear for what it is you are doing. You use the analogy that it is like squeezing a drop of damage out, but fail to see that the more drops you squeeze out the bigger the damaging puddle becomes. When you don't gear for it, it is like trying to squeeze water out of a mildly damp cloth compared to squeezing water out of a soaked cloth. If you are expecting a few minor swaps to increase your potential 100 fold then you are looking at it wrong. A better outlook is 5, 10, 15% increase as you gear more appropriate to what you are doing.

[Lynchilles]

Not taking into account the cap factor, CDC has a 60% DEX modifier. That means that if you hit CDC and it would do 1000 dmg by itself, you're doing 1600 dmg due to that 1 DEX. That's a respectable increase in dmg, I'll admit but considering such things like the massive amounts of HP that LWNM possess that practically require squeezing every dmg point out it's a drop in the bucket and really not worth it.

This right here just proves to me (and I am confident, many others who will read it) that you have no idea what you are talking about. I would suggest tucking your tail between your legs and running away very quickly. In short: you should stop posting.