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    Player Fupafighter's Avatar
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    300% aftermath entropy. End of story. Sams, dragoons, dncs have the same problem with the ws lol...nothing new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    300% aftermath entropy. End of story. Sams, dragoons, dncs have the same problem with the ws lol...nothing new.
    Tachi: Fudo was a good weapon skill for high attack situations before Tachi: Shoha existed, is probably still a good weapon skill for high attack situations, and has a much more impressive fTP at 300 TP than Quietus or Camlann's Torment if being used only for Aftermath.

    Rudra's Storm can be made decent using Climactic Flourish when you want to use it for the aftermath, although I guess it's debatable if that's worth losing the TP a Reverse Flourish would provide. It also has a more impressive fTP at 300% TP than Quietus or Camlann's Torment if being used only for Aftermath.

    They're definitely not "Hold onto your wieners, folks, this is going to give you a protuberance that transcends space and time!" weapon skills, but I'd rank them well above Quietus and Camlann's Torment. Sucking isn't just a binary function; something can suck a little, something can suck more than a little, something can suck moderately, or something can be Cloudsplitter.
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    Last edited by SpankWustler; 03-13-2012 at 07:47 PM. Reason: I ripped a hole in space-time and had to fix it.

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    I think I'd be confused by them making MND the modifier for the empy scythe...
    I mean seriously, what are they smoking?
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    Its a shame cloudsplitter really got the treatment it did, and to to agree with you quietus should just use pure str, not mess with any 40% str/40% mnd. Or at least give it a FTP boost from three to 4, 5, and 6 respectively.
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    Eh, Guillotine had str and mnd mods also. Cross reaper too. The exclusive int mod on Entropy is far more confusing to me.
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    I guess I always thought of DRK being more INT-based.
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    Player Fupafighter's Avatar
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    Well....You have entropy. End of story.
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    The real issue is Scythe vs Great sword

    The bullcrap about base dmg is a /sigh moment

    the dps of scythe and gsd is the same (or very close)

    meaning

    GSD is SAME DPS + Stronger WS = winner
    SCY is SAME DPS + Weaker WS = loser

    O and a +1 to the situation having 1 extra hit and lower delay means that GSD benefits alot more from souleater.

    I do think all the ignores def Weaponskills should be changed (can break cratio cap or just make them crit) but i still think Entropy sould be improved whether it be a stronger ftp mod or an attack bonus or a better use for DRKs mp so that any DRK can use scythe not just Emp or Relic DRKs.
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    Last edited by Rezeak; 03-14-2012 at 06:37 PM.
    Main : 99 DRK
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    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    The real issue is Scythe vs Great sword

    The bullcrap about base dmg is a /sigh moment

    the dps of scythe and gsd is the same (or very close)

    meaning

    GSD is SAME DPS + Stronger WS = winner
    SCY is SAME DPS + Weaker WS = loser

    O and a +1 to the situation having 1 extra hit and lower delay means that GSD benefits alot more from souleater.

    I do think all the ignores def Weaponskills should be changed (can break cratio cap or just make them crit) but i still think Entropy sould be improved whether it be a stronger ftp mod or an attack bonus or a better use for DRKs mp so that any DRK can use scythe not just Emp or Relic DRKs.
    Yeah but not too long ago it was the other way around, Scyth had the better WS and GSWD got shafted on.

    It will ~always~ be one way or another, lets say they buff Empy Scyth to the best WS for DRK, then the GSWD looks like the neglected one. Only other way is to make them identical in every aspect.

    That being said, Empy Scyth WS needs a fricking boost. Make it a pure STR mod with an attack boost or something.
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    Not really

    at 75

    Guillotine vs Spinning Slash had an awesome balance.

    Guillotine had a higher DMG potential but Spinning slash was consistent

    meaning when you couldn't cap out attack and acc
    spinning slash >>>> guillotine.
    but when you could capp atk/acc
    guillotine >>>> spinning slash.

    Honestly Entropy should have a atk/acc bonus so that when DRK can't cap out attack it wrecks mobs.

    and imo Quietus should be a little weaker than entropy(after they are both buffed) but the aftermath and skillchain properties should be the reason you use it. (imo it does need a boost to be at least at the same lvl as torcleaver.
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    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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