Double attack vs haste

[Loir]

I play wirelessly from one of my neighbors. That's frankly not an option for me lol. I'd never have a good enough connection for that.

I seem to remember this lol

Ugh and just cause I know this has been bugging me and I know its been asked in the RQT add nauseum. Looking at downing the last of chloris stage of verth and trading my way too many fangs in soon after servers are up. Presuming identical gear as your smite, if you had ire torque +1 would you use that over the gorget in acc capped situation. I think I recall you saying that it would be better but not worth the cost since post 90 there would be a chance of something better or that was defense to the beir belt+1.

Yeah, I gotcha. I have both, I'm just lazy and tend to just use my Hybrid set and let my Whm make up the difference as long as nothing can one-shot me.

Started out as taru nin tank way back in the day so always been overcautious to things doing the oneshot BS. Learned to have to maximize what I had to work with. With abyssea obviously doesn't matter but there is the odd thing here and there outside that I would probably not want to take the full brunt of the dmg.

Though I type that and I can't really tell you what that is.

[Greatguardian]

Weird personal quirks that you get from tanking for eons. It was more a defense to the full out mdt set, I am usually trying to time myself into it right when the mobs spell would be near finished casting.

Yeah, I gotcha. I have both, I'm just lazy and tend to just use my Hybrid set and let my Whm make up the difference as long as nothing can one-shot me.

[Mojo]

In regards to who initially came up with the formulas for things like fSTR, pDIF, Haste, WSC and the like, I don't know exactly who it was other than that they were JPs. The information was always published on studio gobli though.

http://www32.atwiki.jp/studiogobli/

Much of the testing procedures and data for newly discovered information is posted on there. It might be there for the older parts of the formulas, I really don't know. I do know, however, that the old formulas have been verified by countless players, myself included, to degrees of accuracy that are in most cases exact. We do know that they work.

[Martinius]

i've only ever tanked on mnk, but i was tanking a lot on mnk well before abyssea, and back in my HNM days, i tanked (intentionally lol) on sam a lot of the time. mnk was where i picked up all my ticks and instincts tho (sam was mostly "swap into arhats and hope third eye lasts more than 4 seconds").

the reason i try to keep as much DD gear on is because a couple of the whms in my shell don't play with blink-me-not, so if i really took it in the teeth from something, i stay in my MDT set for the 2-3 seconds to get cured up before blinking back to my full DD set.

[Loir]

i've only ever tanked on mnk, but i was tanking a lot on mnk well before abyssea, and back in my HNM days, i tanked (intentionally lol) on sam a lot of the time. mnk was where i picked up all my ticks and instincts tho (sam was mostly "swap into arhats and hope third eye lasts more than 4 seconds").

the reason i try to keep as much DD gear on is because a couple of the whms in my shell don't play with blink-me-not, so if i really took it in the teeth from something, i stay in my MDT set for the 2-3 seconds to get cured up before blinking back to my full DD set.

Personally done the full scope of Nin in its prime to pld as the reliable tank to sam/nin on anything I could while monking in salvage and when abyssea came out I fought for sam but RR took a piss all over that and I've been happily monking since. I recall when we would get new recruits, back when the huge debate about blinking was still in favour of don't (pre BlinkMN), sticking them on whm and letting them cuss me out so can feel where you are coming from. But as the above poster said <stal> <stpt> are boss.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Tell them what <stpt> and <stal> do so you can DD better and they can heal better, win/win.

[Greatguardian]

I think that was his nice way of saying they suck.

[Martinius]

lol i wasn't saying that those whms suck, but i blink A LOT, so it's the one compromise i try to offer is that you're gonna hate me while i double blink every 10-15 seconds of a fight, if i really took it in the teeth (which is basically rani nukes, serpentine tail and nuke > double tp move from amhuluk), then i'll wait for the cure 5/6 to land before swapping back to full DD gear. part of it is also i have rdm and whm and so i know the frustration on the other side (tho ya, i live off of <stal>, <stpt> and my personal favorite /ta <stwhatever> + <lastst>. :3

i hear you on sam lol. when abyssea came out, i got my mnk, rdm and blm up asap, and then i took out my sam once in an exp pt and promptly declared that job retired. it just couldn't keep up.

[Neisan_Quetz]

EDIT: beaten

[Loir]

Didn't learn right away, got masamune... though I did get some nice use out of it when we did the dynamis grind to 90 for our relic users.