[dev1097] Newly Added Control Config.

[Zhronne]

So far my best experience has been with the xbox 360 controllers and the JP drivers

Those are awesome but:
1) They don't work on the wireless pad (the one I linked is wireless instead, altough there is also a wired version)
2) They do create issues with newer game (for instance when I was using my JP drivers with my wired Xbox360 pad, it was working perfectly with FFXI (dinput) but they weren't working good for TERA and FFXIV (dinput)

With a gamepad like the one I posted, you should be able to use and configure all buttons no matter what the game is, no matter if it's an old one using dinput or a recent one using xinput.

[Zhronne]

I use the Logitech F710 with FFXI on PC. There's a hardware switch between the shoulder buttons that lets you toggle between a legacy mode (for FFXI) and a modern mode (for Xbox 360 Gamepad compatibility).

It's pretty good, and includes a tiny "Nano" receiver so you don't need to have an anaconda coming out of your box, but they do include an extension in case reception isn't that great from where you normally play.

Oh I didn't know this pad had this specific function, sounds just as good as the pad I posted, altough ergonomics-wise I like mine better (concave thumbstick, right thumb and digital swapped around).
Thanks anyway! Really nice addition to the thread

[FrankReynolds]

I use the Logitech F710 with FFXI on PC. There's a hardware switch between the shoulder buttons that lets you toggle between a legacy mode (for FFXI) and a modern mode (for Xbox 360 Gamepad compatibility).

It's pretty good, and includes a tiny "Nano" receiver so you don't need to have an anaconda coming out of your box, but they do include an extension in case reception isn't that great from where you normally play.

Yeah, I forget the model number, but the one I have is just the older model. I'm pretty sure it shares the same crappy X Y A B buttons with the 710 / 310. They seem to start sticking really badly after a little while. Have they improved on them at all? I haven't checked out the newer model. I've just been replacing them with buttons from the 310 when they start jamming since those controls are cheap on the web.

Those are awesome but:
1) They don't work on the wireless pad (the one I linked is wireless instead, altough there is also a wired version)
2) They do create issues with newer game (for instance when I was using my JP drivers with my wired Xbox360 pad, it was working perfectly with FFXI (dinput) but they weren't working good for TERA and FFXIV (dinput)

With a gamepad like the one I posted, you should be able to use and configure all buttons no matter what the game is, no matter if it's an old one using dinput or a recent one using xinput.

Yeah, I'm aware of the issues with those drivers. I still don't understand why this would be difficult at all for SE to fix though. If people are doing it for free then it should be a walk in the park for a paid staff to knock out.

Like I said, let me know if the quality of that control is up to snuff. I'd love to get one, but since it can't really be returned for a refund if it sucks, I don't want to play guinea pig.

[Renaissance2K]

Yeah, I forget the model number, but the one I have is just the older model. I'm pretty sure it shares the same crappy X Y A B buttons with the 710 / 310. They seem to start sticking really badly after a little while. Have they improved on them at all? I haven't checked out the newer model. I've just been replacing them with buttons from the 310 when they start jamming since those controls are cheap on the web.

I had the Logitech Rumblepad 2 for many, many years before buying the 710. If that's the one to which you're referring, the 710 is a dramatic improvement, though I never had sticking issues with the Rumblepad. The buttons are closer to those on the 360, though they require a bit more pressure.

But yeah, I know gamepads are like ties, and that everybody has their own preferences and tastes. The legacy/modern switch seemed like a godsend for an FFXI user, but probably not if you've had bad experiences with Logitech controllers in the past.

[FrankReynolds]

I had the Logitech Rumblepad 2 for many, many years before buying the 710. If that's the one to which you're referring, the 710 is a dramatic improvement, though I never had sticking issues with the Rumblepad. The buttons are closer to those on the 360, though they require a bit more pressure.

But yeah, I know gamepads are like ties, and that everybody has their own preferences and tastes. The legacy/modern switch seemed like a godsend for an FFXI user, but probably not if you've had bad experiences with Logitech controllers in the past.

I don't know what it is. Maybe I just have bad luck with logitech. I've been playing with this Xbox control since they launched the game on Xbox. I moved it to my PC when my original Xbox broke and I've been using it ever since. In the same span of time, I've worn out buttons on 4 of the rumblepads.

The last time I took it apart, I removed the motors and filed the edges of the buttons in an attempt to make them last longer. So far so good, but I'm still reluctant to buy another wireless one. I duuno, all this talk has me wondering though. Maybe I'll give it another shot. Costco still lets you return pretty much anything right? :P

[Daniel]

I'm still hoping to see a dev respond to this, I can't understand why they can't update the controller software to work with xbox controllers.

[FrankReynolds]

Update:

So I found the Xbox 360 PC controller kit on sale for $35 bucks at best buy while I was buying a bunch of mis-priced battery backups for work (750 VA APC UPS units for $39 which are usually $89-$119) and I used a $10 off coupon I had to get it at $25.

It turns out that I was right. The "Microsoft" controller kits they sell on Amazon are knockoffs. The real Microsoft kit works perfectly with the JP drivers. YAY Me!

So don't go buying the Xbox 360 wireless controller kits off Amazon if you plan to use it for FFXI. Buy them from a legit source.