[dev1097] Newly Added Control Config.

[Krashport]

Anyone who doesn't do this is a MORON!

This whole open argument about which method is better for playing a video game sounds like a bunch of kindergarteners fighting over the last (blue) crayon and trying to get everyone to agree its (Pink), It all comes down to PERSONAL PREFERENCE there is NO wrong or better method when playing a video game to "your" liking.

Just made this thread to let Square Enix know and hope they could put time aside to see if anything could be done with the Xbox 360 controller. But seeing how long this thread been sitting here for almost a year, don't think we'll see an answer anytime soon.

[Midorikaze]

I take good care of my controllers but the wires all started to break at the top of the controller in the same spot and some of the buttons would start messing up.

funny i posted this checking out the last post and when i hit submit there was like 30 more posts. didnt feel liek it took me 30 mins to type this or anything.

I had the same exact problem with a Logitech F510, recently got a F710 which is wireless, so far have had no problems. And yay exploding thread ^o^

I have a Logitech G15 keyboard with 18 macro keys on the left side, I just tap these for most of my macros instead of haivng to use a key combo- makes PUP maneuvers and pet commands a breeze. There are many other keyboards out there designed for gaming as well. You don't NEED one but the extra keys can be useful, particularly if a game binds necessary controls to unusual positions.

I believe I have this same type of keyboard (G510) but I didn't get it for FFXI, it was mainly for the illuminated keys. In no way does it make FFXI commands easier for me, I have yet to set shortcuts for the G-keys on the side. I have been using the gamepad method for 20 years; FFXI is my first and only MMO, it originated on a console so it's just the one I'm accustomed to, if I have to type I'm either auto-following, auto-running or standing still. Macros for me are a quick tap of L1 or R1 along with the d-pad and confirm key. To me it is quicker when all the buttons are pretty much there without me having to search out keys on the keyboard. There are those who are more at home with a keyboard, and that's perfectly alright as well. Many games run better this way - it depends on the type of game, too. The most efficient method, the most comfortable, that's for each person to decide.

What it all comes down to, is that each individual has a particular setup that's best for them; there's no right or wrong, or superior - way to play.

[FrankReynolds]

Dual boxing is not a "fact of life." Many players do not dual box, in large part because most players only have one account. Sure, if you want to dual box, I can agree that using a controller isn't a bad idea- but dual boxing is not a requirement or necessity to play this game. Just because *you* do something, doesn't mean everyone does.

Playing the game at all is not a requirement or necessity. What's your point?

It also doesn't mean that the people who are PC gamers previously played on a console.

No, it doesn't.

But we both know that most of them have played on a console and / or still do. A lot of people who don't even game still own a console for the other multimedia functions. The point is that most people already have a controller laying around regardless of whether they play FFXI or not, so it really isn't an additional cost for them.

Well, if you want to talk about money, it's a multi billiion dollar industry that has been in a declining trend for a while now, as many of today's generation put down both their controllers and keyboards and go mobile.. But that's another subject, really.

This is quite true.

Well, maybe you play solo a lot. When you play with a linkshell, in parties, etc., communication is an important part of gameplay, and beyond that, there are people who enjoy the social aspect of the game, playing it specifically to be around other people and chat and have fun. Yes, a keyboard is not the only means of communication, but you can't coutn on everyone in every party your join to have all of the possible alternatives (xbox party chat, ventrilo, mumble, teamspeak, skype, etc)

Perhaps we should agree that we both have our own opinions on these issues, and that while we both like to think that "most people" do things the way we like to do them, it may or may not be the case.

Each kind of input device has its own advantages and disadvantages. In my subjective opinion, for general purposes the pros of a keyboard outweigh the pros of a gamepad for this game. You may not agree, that's fine. But neither of our opinions actually make one or the other "the winner."

I agree that it might be easier to play keyboard when you are chatting heavily, but I don't feel like heavy play and heavy chat happen very frequently together. When you are in the thick of an intense event, chat typically consists of 1-2 word blurbs like "Sleep the addds!!!!" or "Stun <t> dumbass (you're up next)" or "someone heal me!!!!".


None of that really matters though. I don't really want to win so to speak. I just want them to update controller support so that I can get rid of these wonky JP drivers that I have installed on my machine. I use this thing to VPN into corporate environments and I feel very guilty knowing that I have something that shady installed on my computer just so that I can play a video game in comfort. There really is no reason for them not to support it fully.

[Alhanelem]

None of that really matters though. I don't really want to win so to speak.

"winning" was less a reference to winning an argument and more a reference to each particular device being the device of choice.

In no way does it make FFXI commands easier for me, I have yet to set shortcuts for the G-keys on the side

Of course it's not going to make anything easier for you if you don't set it up and use it correctly. That's like complaining you can't use your furniture because you didn't assemble it correctly (or at all).

Macros for me are a quick tap of a single key. no pressing a button then Dpading around. You shouldn't have to search out keys on a keyboard. You should know where every key on a keyboard is. I don't ever look at the keyboard while I'm using it.

[Midorikaze]

Again, I am more accustomed to gamepad, and why fix what isn't broken?

You should know where every key on a keyboard is.

Since when is this a requirement to play an MMO?

[Alhanelem]

Again, I am more accustomed to gamepad, and why fix what isn't broken?



Since when is this a requirement to play an MMO?

It's not a requirement for an MMO. It's a requirement for a Personal Computer.

In no way do I mean to be rude in asking this, but, don't they still teach typing in school?

You may be accustomed to a gamepad now, but take the time to be accustomed to a keyboard, and you will likely like it just as much if not more. especially since knowing how to use both will make you all the more versatile

I play console games, I use controllers, I like them- But for the PC, I prefer a keyboard. I can only use one or the other- Thus, if any kind of chatting or text input is involved, I will reach for the keyboard, because I don't want to pick up and put down the controller all the time. If it's a single player game and it really benefits from the features of a controller, then I'll use one- I have one, I just don't use it for every game.

[wildsprite]

okay this threat is supposed to be a request for xinput support for FFXI, why do we have people arguing against this? do you FPS trolls have nothing better to do than try to force your way of gaming on those of us that prefer game controllers? no? stop it you have no reason to be against having better game controller support when you already have good keyboard/mouse support even if you don't use it, SE added xinput support for FFXIV, and they already have partial DX9 support, adding the DX9c support that allows for xinput shouldn't be that difficult for them to do

those of you who are for keyboards but not game controllers are just trolling this thread, its a request thread, it was intended for those who are for having xinput(xbox360 controller and possible others) added as a native option

It's not a requirement for an MMO. It's a requirement for a Personal Computer.

In no way do I mean to be rude in asking this, but, don't they still teach typing in school?

You may be accustomed to a gamepad now, but take the time to be accustomed to a keyboard, and you will likely like it just as much if not more. especially since knowing how to use both will make you all the more versatile

I play console games, I use controllers, I like them- But for the PC, I prefer a keyboard. I can only use one or the other- Thus, if any kind of chatting or text input is involved, I will reach for the keyboard, because I don't want to pick up and put down the controller all the time. If it's a single player game and it really benefits from the features of a controller, then I'll use one- I have one, I just don't use it for every game.

what a load of garbage, I am quite well accustom to my keyboard, its very useful, I just happen to prefer a game controller for games just as many others do

[Alhanelem]

what a load of garbage, I am quite well accustom to my keyboard, its very useful, I just happen to prefer a game controller for games just as many others do

And I just happen to prefer a keyboard for some games. That doesn't make my post a "load of garbage." Many people like to use keyboards, and many people like to use other devices beyond your typical game controller as well.

I'm not "trolling," either. this is legitimate discussion. I'm not seeking to rile anyone up and I'm not entertained by watching you post. This isn't about amusement, therefore it's not trolling.

I understand the request being made. Unfortunately, SE hasn't updated the game to comply with one new standard over the last 10 years (despite their claims, they didn't actually update the game to directX 9.0c a while back like they said) so I hold no faith that's going to change now.

[wildsprite]

when someone makes a thread requesting a controller update and you come in suggesting they use the keyboard, you are not being helpful, you are in fact trolling

[wildsprite]

if you want a civil conversation about the ups and downs of keyboard vs controller why not make one rather than crapping up a request thread