[dev1097] Newly Added Control Config.

[Zhronne]

Thank's so much for tweaking the keyboard.

I would like to suggest, Could you please tweak the Xbox 360 controller.

This is not an issue with the game, well, not only.
I already made another thread some weeks ago, can read it HERE
This issue concerns BOTH the game AND the X360 original Microsoft drivers.
It could be fixed on any of the sides, but it's unlikely MS will ever do anything about it.
Allow me to explain a bit further.

Xbox360 pad is able to work in two ways: Direct Input (dinput) mode and Xinput.
The first one was tipically used in old games, up to directX 8 (FFXI uses DX8), the latter is used on more recent games, tipically DX9 onwards titles.
MS drivers do not allow you to set the trigger buttons as digital buttons. That mans that the way Dinput typically works, the game will see those two triggers as a third axis, called the X axis. One trigger will work from the range 0+255, the other from the range 0-255.


Ways this can be solved

1. User side
   You can install custom drivers that will allow you to change various settings, among which making the game think the triggers are digital buttons and not Z-Axis.
   You can use XBCD drivers if you have a wired version, or Masahiko Morii's drivers if you have a wireless version. Mr. Morii realized drivers also for the the wired one. They are available on both english and japanese and work even for Windows 7 x64.
   I used Morii's drivers on my old PC. For some reason they aren't working very well on my new PC (well, they triggers work but the right analogue stick doesn't. Sigh...)
2. Microsoft side
   Microsoft should release new drivers with additional settings fixing this issue which is present only on very old PC games (DX8 ones). We all know this ain't happening
3. SquareEnix side
   They release a new controller handling software. Either with specific settings (and not the generic DX8 ones currently implemented) to handle triggers as digital, which would be a bit complicated tbh, or by allowing Xinput peripherals to work with FFXI, that way we would be able to use X360 pad in Xinput mode instead of Dinput mode. This would technically be simple, in theory, but in reality I'm afraid it could be a bit complicated to update FFXI's support from DX8 to DX9 (xinput requires DX9 I think)
4. Emulation
   There is a software called x360ce that you can find at THIS address that allows old dinput-only pad to work in emulation mode. That means that this software makes your PC think that the dinput pad you connect to your PC is not a dinput pad, but an X360 pad working in Xinput mode.
   The same guys said they would like to work on a "reverse emulator", that means an xinput peripheral like the X360 gamepad, to work in dinput mode. With an emulator like this you would probably be able to fix the issue and make the game believe triggers are digital and not Z-axis. Problem is we don't know if such a reverse emulator will ever be developed.
5. Other
   Someone else takes the time to develop new custom drivers.
   The already mentioned XBCD are an old Xbox1 project modified to work for X360 pad too, but the people currently mantaining the project alive didn't create it, so they have little knowledge of every single codeline inside the drivers, and hence have been unable to make big updates or to make so those custom drivers work with a wireless controller as well.
   If someone else were to realize some custom drivers then the problem would be solved.
   We all know this too is highly unlikely because seriously, how many still currently played DX8 games do you know that use a gamepad? Not many. Which means there is little "need" from the users, and hence little "interest" and hence nobody will ever bother to make such drivers.

[FrankReynolds]

There's a simple solution...

Get a $5-10 adaptor, plug your good old ps2 controller in.

Problem solved. Works easy, rumble, analog sticks and everything. XI was designed for that controller too, and the 360's triggers and d-pad are crap for this game.

Will those work with wireless PS3 controllers? Wired 360 controls already work (and I'm pretty happy with everything but the wire), so an adapter for another wired controller would be pointless. Maybe I'll just try one anyways. It's only a few bucks. Is that what you use?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Will those work with wireless PS3 controllers? Wired 360 controls already work (and I'm pretty happy with everything but the wire), so an adapter for another wired controller would be pointless. Maybe I'll just try one anyways. It's only a few bucks. Is that what you use?

Can get a Driver that works wireless, requires you to buy a specific bluetooth card though. Google MotionInJoy.

[cidbahamut]

There's a simple solution...

Get a $5-10 adaptor, plug your good old ps2 controller in.

Problem solved. Works easy, rumble, analog sticks and everything. XI was designed for that controller too, and the 360's triggers and d-pad are crap for this game.

I've never gotten rumble to work using that method. Besides, this is something SE should fix regardless of there being workarounds available. End users shouldn't have to resort to workarounds.

[Nala]

I have issues with xbcd not working properly...

[Zhronne]

Can get a Driver that works wireless, requires you to buy a specific bluetooth card though. Google MotionInJoy.

I can confirm MotionInJoy works fine with FFXI using a PS3 pad. You need to attach that pad through an USB cable though, or at least it did when I used it. Does it work on BlueTooth protocol now if you have a bluetooth receiver in your PC?

Either way motionInJoy is a particularly annoying software to use, if you ask me. Each time you have to load it before the game etc. Dunno, I found it particularly annoying when I had to use it some time ago.



@Nala
Try with Masahiko Morii's X360 drivers then. I linked them in the other thread.

[oliveira]

Currently MotionInJoy works fine with SixAxis, Dualshock 3 and all PS MOVE peripherals through bluetooth connection.

[Zhronne]

Bump! Hoping the dev guys will be able to give some info about this.

[FrankReynolds]

Currently MotionInJoy works fine with SixAxis, Dualshock 3 and all PS MOVE peripherals through bluetooth connection.

How hard is that to set up? I might try out a PS3 controller if getting it installed isn't too wonky.

[Zhronne]

Let's keep bumping these threads guys, hoping someone upthere will finally notice them and convey the message to the dev team