[dev1101] Please add "Don't get the drop X times, get key item for drop" EVERYWHERE!!

[Camiie]

You can get to 100...people need to stop caring about floor 100 lol...its like wanting a damn coruscanti, you go for the metals and that rare rare occasion, you get coruscanti lol.... The floor 80 gear is still kickass and achievable. And alot of these people achieving 80 will eventually get lucky and get floor 100 gear.

So you like luck being the deciding factor whether someone gets the best gear or not? You don't like working for your stuff? You'd rather play the lotto or gamble in Vegas to make your fortune?

[Kimble]

Pchan is against it? Means I am all for it.

[Fupafighter]

THis is pointless lol. I don't see people complaining about how rare it is to get kraken club haha. Same concept...except you can SPAM the Nms for the drops.

[Zinato]

THis is pointless lol. I don't see people complaining about how rare it is to get kraken club haha. Same concept...except you can SPAM the Nms for the drops.

Kraken club also hasn't become standard gear, as long as people shout for Mekira tanks, and Heka healers there is an issue. On the other hand if players treated the gear as luxury items and not mandatory then you would be right there would be no immediate issue. (Yes, I have seen shouts like that and yes they are becoming more frequent.) Also by immediate issue I mean eventually it will be hard for the few players still wanting XX NM to get a team of 18 together, and unlike 75 gear there will not be level increases to reduce the number of players needed.

[Fupafighter]

Kraken club also hasn't become standard gear, as long as people shout for Mekira tanks, and Heka healers there is an issue. On the other hand if players treated the gear as luxury items and not mandatory then you would be right there would be no immediate issue. (Yes, I have seen shouts like that and yes they are becoming more frequent.) Also by immediate issue I mean eventually it will be hard for the few players still wanting XX NM to get a team of 18 together, and unlike 75 gear there will not be level increases to reduce the number of players needed.

+2 is standard...not HQ body armor...get that right man.

[Zinato]

+2 is standard...not HQ body armor...get that right man.

I didn't say all shouts require it but, as time goes on it is becoming the new +2. Besides, I don't know what groups you've been in but, anyone in full +2 without a sizable gear swap set seems to be mocked in the runs I do. (Then again Asura is known for its um... "Special" players) That aside, gear becomes standard when it becomes expected, regardless of who is able to get it. For example, Empyrean is standard for DD, 40-50% cure potency is standard for healers and so forth. (Small side note on Mekira, unlike Heka which has a 12% counterpart, Mekira's craftable counterparts deal in -pdt rather then lower amounts of -dt. In other words Mekira is irreplaceable in terms of single piece -dt goes. The exception of course is creed +2 body under optimal conditions) Don't get me wrong I'm entirely for special pieces of gear that set apart the dedicated from the less then dedicated. But, when these pieces of gear become a sorting feature of players who want to do content, there is then an issue. If a player acquired 5-10 pieces of rare gear an does 10% more damage for it, that's wonderful, they can feel proud as superior damage dealers. But, if the gap is more like 50% increase off 1-2 pieces (like empyrean weapons/ws) then the average player will see not having such a weapon/gear piece as being gimp. That is the problem I see. It's more of an issue than most players account for but, that's a wall of text for another time. I also want to point out this issue isn't one I can attribute to a single player or player type, as a majority of players have this habit.

[Alhanelem]

THis is pointless lol. I don't see people complaining about how rare it is to get kraken club haha. Same concept...except you can SPAM the Nms for the drops.

That's because nobody cares about the kraken club anymore.

I can't believe how much people are still NOT GETTING THE POINT. The system is intended ONLY to prevent an UNGODLY EXCESSIVE number of attempts at a content for the SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE who get ROYALLY SCREWED with their luck. This system does NOT come into play for the VAST MAJORITY of people who have good enough fortunes to get the drop within a statistically probable period of time. E.g. If something has a 1% drop rate, then it's statistically likely that you could get one within 100 kills (It's not a guarantee of course, that would be Gambler's Fallacy). So, in this case, if you went 1/150 or maybe 1/200, you'd get the pity drop. I cannot comprehend how anyone could find that unreasonable.

The only reason anyone could possibly be opposed to this is because they already have their <insert rare item here> and they want to do everything they can to make sure they remain part of some exlcusive club.

[Fupafighter]

How is toci and mekira body standard lol..? Some people go 0/200+ (me) on shit like that. It's a luxury, I understand that. It's not standard in anyway. Saying that you shouldn't be relying on that item to drop when you do a run, It's supposed to be rare as hell because it's so good.

[Fupafighter]

Noone is opposed to it lol. And i care about kraken club haha.

[Karbuncle]

Can add an additional 0/32 To my Total tally of not obtaining Voidwatch Bodies.

An Additional, 0/12 on Botulus Rex, 0/20 on Kaggen.

putting my total in the ballpark of 0/450+ On Any body. 0/210~ Or so on Kaggen Himself.