[dev1102] So what is the Ultimate Spell for RDM?

[saevel]

I'd worry more about the list of things that need to be fixed for RDM before asking for an ultimate spell.

Agree with this. They need to fix the damn job already.

Watch, SE will make "Gravity III" as our super spell, castable only under Spontaneity.

[Ladyofdragons]

I'd worry more about the list of things that need to be fixed for RDM before asking for an ultimate spell.

Very true I'd rather see rdm fixed a bit before we get an ultimate spell

[ManaKing]

Very true I'd rather see rdm fixed a bit before we get an ultimate spell

That's kinda the point... RDM isn't in good enough shape to get an Ultimate Spell? Oh sorry the job doesn't really function so we can't even consider it like other jobs? It's too retarded to be treated equally...

I understand you are trying to be realistic, but honestly the stance is self-defeating. SE doesn't need to give anyone anything else until they actually fix all of their jobs OR at least getting them in shape where it can receive an ultimate spell.

[saevel]

That's kinda the point... RDM isn't in good enough shape to get an Ultimate Spell? Oh sorry the job doesn't really function so we can't even consider it like other jobs? It's too retarded to be treated equally...

I understand you are trying to be realistic, but honestly the stance is self-defeating. SE doesn't need to give anyone anything else until they actually fix all of their jobs OR at least getting them in shape where it can receive an ultimate spell.

My only thought is that they do have something planned but simply haven't got to it yet. They've been systematically moving through the jobs and tweaking stuff over the past few months.

I know .. it's optimistic, but what the hell it's spring.

[ShadowViper]

An ultimate spell, so yay our usefullness if will turn into one spell show. Like it was said above rather see the job fixed and giving a real role in a group enviroment.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

An ultimate spell, so yay our usefullness if will turn into one spell show. Like it was said above rather see the job fixed and giving a real role in a group enviroment.

It has little to do with one spell defining RDM more the fact all mages so far have gained unique spells for their line bar RDM.

If that spell is an ultimate enfeebling spell, it would be fitting.
So.. how about Ultima as our ultimate spell? (Aoe) non-elemental damage that dispels all buffs, lowers all stats by 50% and inflicts all enfeebling effects. Enfeebling effects would resist as normal, although following the NEW resist system, not the immune-to-all resist system. (Combine it with /BLM Elemental Seal for added magic accuracy.)

True enough, but it'd more likely be Paralyze III to help on all the non-TP style melee attacks all 3 of them.

[Duelle]

It has little to do with one spell defining RDM more the fact all mages so far have gained unique spells for their line bar RDM.

I still say the RDM fixes should come in first, then we can worry about an ultimate spell.

To stay with the topic, this is my contribution:

Red Trance
Lv. 99
Requires Chainspell Effect
Consumes all MP
Self-target

Places you in a trance, temporarily increasing all your skills and proficiencies for the duration of Chainspell or until you run out of MP.

Red Trance slowly consumes the RDM's MP at X% per tick. +30 to all stats. Magic, sword and dagger proficiencies temporarily raised to A+ and temporarily capped. Grants access to all sword and dagger WS. Spells that are native to RDM cost no MP, and instead speed up the rate at which your MP is consumed by Red Trance. Spells that are gained through subjobs still cost MP and consume their normal amounts of MP AND speed up the rate MP is consumed by Red Trance.

...I didn't say anything about it being balanced. I just wanted to contribute. =P

[tyrantsyn]

Throw it in as ultima and have it do tier III to IV nuke damage and have it cause a - stat reduction to att, def, acc, mdef, and evasion. And yes make it actual work on things we would want it for "End game content"

[Babekeke]

BLM has Meteor under Elemental Seal. SCH has BOTH Embrava and Kaustra under their 2 Hour. WHM apparently has Arise coming.

*Crickets*

RDM has Refresh II... sorry, but I wouldn't get my hopes up if I was RDM main.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

RDM has Refresh II... sorry, but I wouldn't get my hopes up if I was RDM main.

I think most know that now, to be honest I think people post here out of principle now not because they think SE even read this section, or will ever listen.