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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Request: More Information in the Equipment Window

    With the Removal of the 999 Visual Cap, Its good to know SE is taking it in the right direction.

    Is it possible to add Ranged Attack to the Window? Accuracy, Evasion, and Ranged Accuracy would be nice, But I'd settle with just seeing Ranged Attack Values.

    Hell, Remove Elemental Resists and put Racc, Acc, and Ranged Attack in its place

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Hell, Remove Elemental Resists and put Racc, Acc, and Ranged Attack in its place
    As someone who takes barspells very seriously, please consider the horrors that one deserves for making such a statement.

    Adding accuracy and ranged values does not mean we should remove an important part of the UI.

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    In addition to adding Accuracy, Evasion, Ranged Accuracy, and Ranged Attack, we could also get total Haste (including all effects not just gear; the value would cap out at the current 80% cap but could also turn blue if total relay reduction caps it out), Subtle Blow (would show if it caps), Magic Defense Bonus, base Magic Attack Bonus, and Enmity modifiers (from gear and merits anyways).

    These could all be on a separate page (if need be, as a Status submenu probably) that has all the information on the equip screen alongside the attributes view.
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    Last edited by Economizer; 03-04-2012 at 09:30 AM.

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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    As someone who takes barspells very seriously, please consider the horrors that one deserves for making such a statement.
    Well, I think you're the only one i know :P. Theres Known mathematical formulas for determining how much Resistance you get for Barspell based on your enhancing magic.

    For Racc, Atk, and Evasion... Those formulas are a bit harder as they involve a lot of Unknowns. But Mr.Econ I think you're kinda reading too much into that statement... I Don't really want the removal of anything.



    I always liked the look on that guys face
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 03-04-2012 at 09:37 AM.

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    Some things shouldn't be said even in jest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Theres Known mathematical formulas for determining how much Resistance you get for Barspell based on your enhancing magic.
    When there is more then one person in a party capable of casting a barspell a well equipped White Mage gets very tired very quickly of other people casting their inferior barspells when you worked very hard to get a good set for it. Not everything is Perfect Fantasy XI either and formulas have changed at certain values before - something we wouldn't know without the all important display.
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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
    Some things shouldn't be said even in jest.
    Respectfully disagree.

    When there is more then one person in a party capable of casting a barspell a well equipped White Mage gets very tired very quickly of other people casting their inferior barspells when you worked very hard to get a good set for it.
    /p Hey guys, I'm putting up Barspells, I got a set for it, Please don't recast over mine

    If they fail to listen to this, Remove them, Because they cannot function at even a third grade level. (Psst: You'd be doing yourself a favor).

    Besides, this, Increasingly Idiotic person who would repeatedly overwrite a WHMs barspells with his inferior BS should be put in his place. No excuse for that level of incompetency.

    Not everything is Perfect Fantasy XI either and formulas have changed at certain values before - something we wouldn't know without the all important display.
    Yeah, But we know them now :3
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 03-04-2012 at 02:47 PM.

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    Greetings!

    We definitely understand how many of you would like to see other stat values displayed, besides just attack and defense. Unfortunately, at the current time it is a bit difficult. This information is not kept client side and in order for this information to be displayed it would be necessary to increase the amount of information that is sent from the server to the client.

    Increasing this amount of information sent to the client means an increase in the amount of data traffic, so the reason it is difficult is due to the fact that we are considering the risk of lag this could cause.

    The same reason holds true for some other requests we have seen, such as displaying party member’s status ailments and other information.

    Again, we realize the necessity for these things, but please understand that at the moment it is very difficult to do.
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    Some things, such as party TP, are already sent to the client and simply not displayed. It would be nice if you could display those.
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    There's like 70-80% less server traffic in FFXI than there was 8 years due to the ffxi population dropping from like 2mil to 300k, with that extra bandwidth couldn't they use it to display these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings!

    We definitely understand how many of you would like to see other stat values displayed, besides just attack and defense. Unfortunately, at the current time it is a bit difficult. This information is not kept client side and in order for this information to be displayed it would be necessary to increase the amount of information that is sent from the server to the client.

    Increasing this amount of information sent to the client means an increase in the amount of data traffic, so the reason it is difficult is due to the fact that we are considering the risk of lag this could cause.

    The same reason holds true for some other requests we have seen, such as displaying party member’s status ailments and other information.

    Again, we realize the necessity for these things, but please understand that at the moment it is very difficult to do.
    If it is stored as a variable server side... IT CAN EASILY BE DISPLAYED CLIENT SIDE. if you are really concerned about the amount of data being sent to the client, try to remember that 99.9% of the player base use broadband connections and stream things like hulu and nextflix without lagging their connection. based on the computer set up they may do it on the same device. So there is NO ISSUE with more data being sent to the clients. I'm sure if someone was bored enough they'd find a way to bipass the information void on the equipment screen by scanning the incoming packets to figure out the percentage on the acc and everything else we want, the "it is very difficult to do" is just "we don't feel like putting in the effect of rearranging the gui"
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    I have the final form of Aegis, it has 40 Def Augments Shield bash V and Magic Damage Taken -45%... The ultimate form!

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    The game ran fine on my old 128k ISDN line. I can't imagine there are a lot of 56ks around. Just make the enhanced GUI optional. I imagine you can select which packets are sent to a person based on some criteria. Ultimately, don't care though, I would rather have more content.
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