Occurance of fire weather

[Tsukato]

I was hoping we could maybe see an adjustment on how often we can see heat waves. I find it a little... silly that we have two active volcanoes (one of them being a double volcano) but one has more consistently earth weather and the other is more likely to see rain. Fire weather is by far the rarest weather (with the exception of light but at least you can guarantee yourself light weather by going to temenos) making any fire oriented magian trial many times harder than it need be. The low occurrence also serves to spike the price of flame geodes and Ifritites.

[RAIST]

It's cyclical. Pops frequently during the summer months when it's in season. Not hard to find once you figure that out. Tedious maybe because it's roughly 3 days every 12 or so.... but not "hard".

[Raksha]

I was camping earth weather in gustav tunnel and would see occasional fire weather there, but it never lasted longer than 5 minutes at a time.

[Tsukato]

Why of all the threads in feedback/suggestions offering ideas on tweaks to the game was mine the only one to be moved? :/ and why here?

[Kitkat]

Joy for searches, but I have to agree with the fire weather being rather.....scarce. Seasonal cycle aside, even when it is "in season" you are rarely to see it occur. Out of several weather based weapons I have built, fire path has to be the most annoying because you are nearly forced to wait the day of the week each time. Any other weapon I've built (Dex, Agi, Int) there are zones/area that have constant and frequent weather cycles that last upwards of 15~45min, several zones with persisting weather (Dynamis, Nyzul, Limbus), but of the several deserts (with actual EP mobs at 99), volcanos, and beaches....fire weather is by far the rarest of them all. Both volcano regions have molten lava flows and fire spouts but are more likely to see weather that is the exact opposite. Parched deserts will only see a few days (with 5~10min intervals) of heat waves......with SE's desire for "balance" I can't understand why this hasn't been adjusted to be a little more frequent in at least the volcano regions.

[RAIST]

It probably hasn't received an adjustment because it's a trivial matter, for the most part. You don't NEED fire weather to complete all those trials. Granted, there are a few stages early on where you have to have it simply because of monster distribution... but they are extremely simple ones like 25 Opo Opo kills in Fire, Light, Wind, Thunder weather. That's 5 kills with weather up at 5 points a kill...not exactly a challenge, just a matter of catching 10 minutes of fire in season in Ifrit's.

Keep in mind, that this was a big reduction in the kill count for these trials also.

Otherwise...you can simply slaughter easy to kill targets in a zone with fast repops on the required day. Now.. just where could you go to mass kill targets in 58 minute spurts once every ~8 hours on any given day..........

[Kitkat]

As your signature states, that is a matter of your opinion. This is about as trivial a matter as SE making changes to the names of gear which they have done many times in the past, even recent past, but it doesn't change the fact they have done it. Don't need changes to gear to make it any more or less equipable do you?

Not asking them to make major alterations to the zone, just to make the weather occur slightly more frequent than it does in certain zones. Also to answer your question, there are several places you can cleave outside of abyssea, since it is simple fodder, with just a healer on several jobs. I've cleaved Buggard in VI during weather spurts to finish dex path, cleaved beasts in terrigan for agi path, cleaved mandy in tree during dex path.....next question?

[RAIST]

the point is that weather, for the most part is nothing but a bonus to speed things up IF YOU HAPPEN TO CATCH IT. If you can maintain a decent kill rate, you can finish a trial in minimal time without hunting the weather. In fact, you could actually be wasting time waiting on weather. I've allied up and run an entire diremite trial (200 kills) in one session, vs. camping weather in aydewah for hours on end. Took only 2 1/2 game days to run a friends lizard/fire trial without farming weather--that's 300 kills. Likewise, did my 200 Manticores for my katanas in one Saturday afternoon (two game days) with no weather.

This is more an issue ginned up by the player than it is a flaw in game mechanics.

{Edit:}
for the record, just took a quick glance at my inventories and spotted 18 weapons that had a day/weather trial all the way through to the Geode stages. So, this isn't just blowing smoke out the @$$ on this...I've done my share of these trials either for myself or to help others out.

[Kitkat]

If, should, would, could. The point isn't to make everything easier to the point of oblivion it is the fact that unlike other weathers that you can either force the occurrence of or go to a zone with a high rate of it, fire weather has roughly a 5% rate compared to others (only one lower is light, but it can be forced in nyzul). The point of the weather bonus was to help those who do not always have the time to be on at the exact time of day that day of the week comes up. Many people have jobs, school, need sleep, etc so increasing the occurrence of fire weather is to these peoples benefit.

For reference this is the weather forecast of various zones over numerous ingame years to build seasonal patterns, only a handful even show seasonal patterns with the rest having the weather regardless:


Anyone who as used FFX11-Bazaar has seen this before and knows that the shorter the line, the shorter the duration of the weather. The point of the topic is to show that A.) Places that fire weather should be just as common in, it isn't and B.) places that do have fire weather with seasonal occurrence, have overall too short durations when compared to any other location/weather.

So, I'm glad you can play during ideal times during the day ~golf clap~ Good for you. Doesn't change the fact that the weather is far too scarce in areas it shouldn't be especially considering the conditions of the areas in question. Once again, using your "disclaimer" within valid complaints, this is based on YOUR opinion, YOUR time availability, YOUR conjecture of facts based on YOUR experience which does not necessarily make anything fact for every player. Only thing any of the points either of us make is based on opposite sides of the spectrum. What is probable is not always possible for every individual, so what is the problem with requesting a change in a game mechanic that goes against the very disclaimer every player has to dismiss when logging in about not casting aside your job/friends/school/life for a video game? Currently I'm lucky if I can catch the tail end of one day let alone a full day due to these very instances, which means I would normally rely on weather occurrences to make up the difference, but with fire path I can't do that because the rarity of the weather even in areas that should have it commonly.

[Raksha]

My STR weapons took, on average, 10 times longer than my EVA/PDT weapons.

They were done mostly on weekends, so more or less uninterrupted play time.