Prism Staff (name pending)

[Septimus]

Remember way back when we mentioned that we were looking into the creation of a prism staff that would combine all the elemental staves together? Well, I have some good news. It seems like the development team has finalized the graphics for it and are currently working on the possible stats for it (listed below).



The specific values for the stats are going through their final adjustments and will be decided afterwards. We will be looking into possibly increasing the base CHR a bit.

However, since there are limitations for the amount of stats that can be added to a single item, it will not be possible for this item to possess every one of these stats. With this said, we are working on this with the assumption that some of these stats may be eliminated in the adjustment process.

Similar to the existing elemental staves, we plan on keeping this prism staff equipable by all jobs, but the level that you can use it will be well above level 51.

While it will be quite a bit before we can implement or even show this item off, we will be sure to let you know once everything is good to go.

Dearest Camate,

I have two requests.

Firstly, if there is a prism staff, please make sure that it is Magic Affinity Damage as opposed to Magic Attack Bonus because these things are calculated very differently for spells. A ten percent increase in Magic Affinity damage (AKA Magic Affinity Damage +1) is a much larger effect than Magic Attack Bonus +10. (It may just be a translation error, I just want to be sure that it will be the same effect.)

Secondly, could we have prism staves for the various magian trials? Septimus has 8 Avatar Perpetuation staves along with the 8 level 51 staves that I need for RDM. (Mind you, those perp staves are entirely useless now thanks to the upcoming change in elemental spirit cost, it would be great if something else were added to them like Avatar Haste or gobs of attack so I don't feel that I wasted my time making them.) Atumre currently has 4 Elemental damage staves to 90+ (and working on the other 4) along with the 8 level 51 staves that I need for WHM, BRD, SCH, and BLM. While a prism staff for the 51 staves would be awesome for our inventory, those of us who made Magian staves would like a little love as well. We shouldn't be punished for going the extra mile on our jobs.

[Camate]

Dearest Camate,

I have two requests.

Firstly, if there is a prism staff, please make sure that it is Magic Affinity Damage as opposed to Magic Attack Bonus because these things are calculated very differently for spells. A ten percent increase in Magic Affinity damage (AKA Magic Affinity Damage +1) is a much larger effect than Magic Attack Bonus +10. (It may just be a translation error, I just want to be sure that it will be the same effect.)

Secondly, could we have prism staves for the various magian trials? Septimus has 8 Avatar Perpetuation staves along with the 8 level 51 staves that I need for RDM. (Mind you, those perp staves are entirely useless now thanks to the upcoming change in elemental spirit cost, it would be great if something else were added to them like Avatar Haste or gobs of attack so I don't feel that I wasted my time making them.) Atumre currently has 4 Elemental damage staves to 90+ (and working on the other 4) along with the 8 level 51 staves that I need for WHM, BRD, SCH, and BLM. While a prism staff for the 51 staves would be awesome for our inventory, those of us who made Magian staves would like a little love as well. We shouldn't be punished for going the extra mile on our jobs.

While I am not 100% sure whether this would be similar to the Magian staves, I have corrected my original post to just state "magic attack" since the Japanese did not specifically state bonus. I will ask about this and see if I can get a response.

[SpankWustler]

While I am not 100% sure whether this would be similar to the Magian staves, I have corrected my original post to just state "magic attack" since the Japanese did not specifically state bonus. I will ask about this and see if I can get a response.

Thanks. Your effort and attention to detail are appreciated!

It would be extremely weird and surprising if something without elemental affinities were considered a replacement for things with elemental affinity, but the Development Bros can do weird things at times. I mean, there's Magic Attack Bonus on the Black Mage mythic weapon instead of magical affinity.

[Septimus]

While I am not 100% sure whether this would be similar to the Magian staves, I have corrected my original post to just state "magic attack" since the Japanese did not specifically state bonus. I will ask about this and see if I can get a response.

Unless you really really love mage jobs or have an undying passion for the mathy parts, it is a difference that few people know about. (And apparently the Magian staves work slightly differently from the level 51 staves, but someone far mathier than I would have to explain that.) But thank you for checking, we really do appreciate it.

Could you also please ask about combining the Magian staves? I would love you even more than I do already now. <3

[Arcon]

Am I the only one who absolutely couldn't care less about any additional effects? So what if you need a Terra's and an Arka IV (and possibly a Pluto's) in addition to that, it would still cut the staves you need to carry by a lot.

Personally, I'm disappointed as well. This staff should have been released years ago. Sure, there's still some people out there who'd benefit from it, but I'd have to gimp my playstyle extremely to get a use out of this. I really don't get SE's reasoning behind this, why do they release this after making items with Affinity +6 on them? I hate how afraid they are of overpowering things that they only shell out half assed junk like this. But whatever, I guess it's a tiny step in the right direction.

Firstly, if there is a prism staff, please make sure that it is Magic Affinity Damage as opposed to Magic Attack Bonus [..]

I'm pretty sure it's just the wording. Magic Affinity, to players' current knowledge consists of three parts, damage, accuracy and perpetuation cost. I'd see no reason why they'd add another aspect to it at this point in time, especially if they're trying to combine staves that affect those three parts in particular. It would be pretty pointless if it was MAB instead of damage affinity.

(And apparently the Magian staves work slightly differently from the level 51 staves, but someone far mathier than I would have to explain that.)

That's not about math, really. The effects are applied seperately, but they're still the same effects using the same formulas. One of them adds to the elemental bonus from certain Atma (trial staves), while the other is multiplied afterwards (Lv51 elemental staves), that's the only way we can even tell the difference. But I can't think of any non-Atma situation where there would be a difference. They're both subject to all other rules, only they take two seperate steps in the evaluation chain, which leads to believe that they're considered different effects. Still has virtually no effect on the end-user.