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    Player wish12oz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    However, since there are limitations for the amount of stats that can be added to a single item, it will not be possible for this item to possess every one of these stats.
    If you want to put more on it then the item can hold, just make 2 staves, one for the light elements, one for the dark elements.

    Also, if it's only magic affinity 2, this staff will be useless as you would still have to make the magian staves and carry them around or be really gimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    If you want to put more on it then the item can hold, just make 2 staves, one for the light elements, one for the dark elements.

    Also, if it's only magic affinity 2, this staff will be useless as you would still have to make the magian staves and carry them around or be really gimp.
    Yeah best use I can see would be for wildfire COR. You get the 2 fire affinity, plus 9 AGI. Would be good for quick draw damage also.

    It might also be somewhat useful for BLU (Do BLUs use Jupiter's staff for charged whisker?)
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    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
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    I think this staff is meant to help sub/side jobs who need cure potency...such as bst/whm or dnc/whm etc, though not as common as they used to be this staff helps with those setups, also blue mage might like it and could be a great Cataclysm AOE staff if has elemental bonuses in any way, which also makes it a good brew staff equippable by any job^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by ala2 View Post
    I think this staff is meant to help sub/side jobs who need cure potency...such as bst/whm or dnc/whm etc, though not as common as they used to be this staff helps with those setups
    From the sounds of it the cure potency will be = to apollo staff. Unless said BST or DNC has use for another defining trait of the HQ staff set there would be no need for this over apollo staff. -Pdt aside since they more or less said no to that, I can't think of anything that jumps out as something a main or subjob (IE /whm as used in the examples) could make use of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    Yeah best use I can see would be for wildfire COR. You get the 2 fire affinity, plus 9 AGI. Would be good for quick draw damage also.
    The users who will see the biggest boost, even though there are only a half-dozen of them, would probably be Death Penalty holders. They'll finally be able to use a weapon that enhances both Leaden Salute and the Quick Draws that actually do damage.

    Having all affinities on one weapon should be nice for Quick Draw resist rates in general, but good luck finding something outside of Voidwatch that resists Quick Draw or finding out which elements various Voidexhibitionists are weak to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    It might also be somewhat useful for BLU (Do BLUs use Jupiter's staff for charged whisker?)
    It's generally the go-to option, although a couple of weird sword combinations can produce similar results.

    Some Blue Mages opt to use magical spells (and thus elemental staves) against some of the more horrid Voidexhibitionsists and also use elemental staves to make sure a few horrible things that some horrible person decided should be procs will land, too.

    So, yeah, I look forward to this thingy for my Blue Mage and Corsair. Not so much, if at all, for my White Mage.

    I really see the upcoming Prism Staff as more of a non-Elemental-Magic-user kind of thing that even the Development Bros know will be pointless for anybody who has put the time into making Magian staves. There's even been mention of combining the Magian versions in this very topic, although it wasn't the resounding "Our least incompetent guy is working on it. Expect it well before the coming armed revolution of the oppressed proletariat." that I was hoping to hear.
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    Merging Series I/II/III Magian staves into Prisms would be a very just reward to those who take their mages seriously. But for the love of god don't leave it the same model when it represents eight times the effort.
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    I agree with tfun90. If this is supposed to be for mages, make it look powerful instead of like a bird feeder. As the staff has been shown, it would be useless to my Black Mage, but I can tell you now that Black Mages and Red Mages are the only jobs begging for a merged Prism Staff item. I would hate to see my Magian Trials effort go to waste after I have went through the process of getting most staves upgraded, and I would rather see a Dark Staff (Ice, Earth, Water etc.) and Light Staff (Fire, etc.) with affinity +6 for each of the specified elements than a single staff that cannot outdo my Vourukasha I. Black Mages have been asking for a combined staff for years, and it would be a bit depressing for the staves to finally be combined with nothing optional for the Black Mages that have been asking for it. It is similar to giving free food to the man in the BMW with ketchup stains on his shirt that just showed up than to the homeless man that has been begging you for scraps for the past seven years.
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    If this is done via a quest and not synthesis, I demand it be called "By our powers combined".
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    As is, the OP basically says it's the same as current HQ synth'd staves, but w/ a higher level requirement. I seriously hope this is synth'd and has a HQ version. If not, they need to add 3 staves, magic potency/m.acc 2/2, 3/1, 1/3.

    I wouldn't use it unless i'm always getting resisted as I have ToM staves anyway.
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    I'm pretty baffled as to why they've decided to bring this out now when people have been asking for it for quite literally years. A combined staff would never have increased the capabilities of the jobs that used it, but it would have been vastly more convenient. Why on earth announce this now, when most of the jobs that relied full time on the elemental staves are able to move on to unquestionably superior ones?

    I can fully appreciate that there are more niche uses to combined staves, particularly for jobs that are not on the magian staff list, and for people who are not willing to create magian staves, but honestly, the timing is absurd. They must be aware of the supreme irony of bringing out a much desired item just after it has been rendered obsolete. It feels like a gigantic slap around the face and I'm very irritated by it. I'm not sure what's coming next, but it will probably involve the creation of affinity+9 staves tailored to specifics spells and the sudden and entirely coincidental announcement that magian staves will be combinable.

    /disengage rant mode
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