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  1. #51
    Player Economizer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    Simply put, Prism Staff is the RDM of staves.
    Is right now a good time for me to pitch a shield version of this item?
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Nobody wants a staff with tons of 100 subpar stats, and if they do they should keep quiet. Unless this prism staff can offer the same benefits as the magian 99 staves then this prism staff is a waste of time and is ~2 years too late. Any mage that is worth anything uses magian staves to augment their primary magical functions and a prism staff will do nothing to reduce the need for tons of magian staves...
    You seem to miss the purpose of the Prism Staff. [..]
    Just wanted to point out that you misquoted. Tinuviel said that, not me.

    Though I agree with the basic sentiment. This staff is cute, but not one bit more. Has its uses for people who don't have the inventory for better options.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    As RDM, I never bothered with the magian staves except Arka IV, because our nuking is subpar no matter what you throw at it,
    I dunno man. The difference between an HQ elemental staff and a fully upgraded magian nuking staff was like night and day. Our nuking still isn't gonna compete with a Black Mage, but the magian staves did quite a lot to help it out.

    I really just see this prism staff as something for jobs that aren't on the magian staves.
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    I hope its not craftable that would just allow crafters to sell it for grossly over what they paid. Not that I care, >.> I have magic acc/perp/atk staves from magian Hmp/ele resist is all I'd get out of this, granted -dt or even -pdt on this staff might be nice. Great idea though for anyone not wanting to go that extra mile, of the traits listed I would vote ele resist, and Hmp. The DEVs seem to be intent on Cure potency but, any healer should have cure staff by now and they said the prism staff will be much higher (75+?) then the staff levels now. (IE when you could equip it you should already have the magian staff.)
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    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    How about we take a page from the mini-addons, like A Shantotto Ascension, or A Moogle Kupo-detat, or A Crystaline prophecy. Lets make this quested, Rare/ex (or atleast EX) and Upon completion, make it have 3 slots and a list of selectable augments, could make it lv 75 or higher. And augments could be based on the base component staffs. Upon completion of the Quest you pick 3 augments for it.

    Such as...

    -Attack/ranged attack +15
    -Critical hit rate/damage +15%
    -Physical/magical damage taken -20%
    -Cure potency/Cast time +10%/-10%
    -MP/HP recovered while healing +10 (or perhaps some refresh?)
    -Enhancing/enfeebling/elemental skill +15?
    -Evasion/accuracy +15

    Or so-forth. It prevents needing a crafter, it could be signed with your name upon completion, and it makes it unprofitable. Also can make it so the quest can be undertaken again with the staff discarded incase the selected stats nolonger benefit the player. Seems the best option for me. The real question is what would the quest need, and should it be hard, or easy. I think a reasonable option could be say...all the avatar whispers or mini-forks or something. Something quick to do since this is for convenience, not perfectionism and elitism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Just wanted to point out that you misquoted. Tinuviel said that, not me.
    Hmm.. must have been the multi-quote option.. that thing seems to linger for some reason. Already seen it do weird things in other threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
    Is right now a good time for me to pitch a shield version of this item?
    As Camate would likely point out, this discussion is about the Prism Staff ;D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    However, since there are limitations for the amount of stats that can be added to a single item, it will not be possible for this item to possess every one of these stats.
    If you want to put more on it then the item can hold, just make 2 staves, one for the light elements, one for the dark elements.

    Also, if it's only magic affinity 2, this staff will be useless as you would still have to make the magian staves and carry them around or be really gimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    If you want to put more on it then the item can hold, just make 2 staves, one for the light elements, one for the dark elements.

    Also, if it's only magic affinity 2, this staff will be useless as you would still have to make the magian staves and carry them around or be really gimp.
    Yeah best use I can see would be for wildfire COR. You get the 2 fire affinity, plus 9 AGI. Would be good for quick draw damage also.

    It might also be somewhat useful for BLU (Do BLUs use Jupiter's staff for charged whisker?)
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    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    I think this staff is meant to help sub/side jobs who need cure potency...such as bst/whm or dnc/whm etc, though not as common as they used to be this staff helps with those setups, also blue mage might like it and could be a great Cataclysm AOE staff if has elemental bonuses in any way, which also makes it a good brew staff equippable by any job^^
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