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    Community Rep Camate's Avatar
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    Alrighty, I followed up on some your questions and suggestions.

    In regards to the question about whether the "affinity: magic attack +2" and what not would be the same as the Magian staves, I was told that it would be closer to the stats on the original elemental staves.

    Also, the development team seems quite intent on keeping cure potency on the prism staff, but they are not planning to add -PDT.

    Finally, there have been some comments about making a prism-type staff that would combine all of the Magian staves. While your suggestions are of course always welcome, we would like to keep this to a separate discussion and will look into this another time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesa View Post
    At the risk of sounding a little bitter, why is it that for bards, the equivalent item is their relic weapon, but this is just being designed as an all-jobs item? I'm still quite sick of having to lug around 13 different instruments just to be a reasonably effective bard.
    So you'd prefer a completely useless relic, like all other non-melee jobs? Be lucky you can at least use your relic.

    And no, this is not the same. This is as if Gjallarhorn would give all songs +1. An inventory saver that makes you worse. That's the Prism Staff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Finally, there have been some comments about making a prism-type staff that would combine all of the Magian staves. While your suggestions are of course always welcome, we would like to keep this to a separate discussion and will look into this another time.
    Now this, this is what I'm talking about. I'm really excited about this, even if it won't happen for another year or so. Just for the love of everything that's holy don't make it worse than the single-element staves or it will still be just "meh".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Also, the development team seems quite intent on keeping cure potency on the prism staff, but they are not planning to add -PDT.
    solve's my issues
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    Meh, just means I won't have to bother getting it then.
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    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Also, the development team seems quite intent on keeping cure potency on the prism staff, but they are not planning to add -PDT.
    While I think I understand the reasoning - either cure potency was regarded as a part of the affinity effect of the staves in a way or the light and dark staves are keeping their boosts or something, this is disappointing.

    Corsairs and Rangers use the staff for Ranged Attack and fire affinity on one weapon. Mages use this weapon to farm using area of effect damage. This weapon would have a solid use with these stats on them.

    I won't say it would make the staffs useless, there will still be someone who wants to save any space possible, but it will negatively impact the desirability of these weapons in favor of the level 51 variants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Also, the development team seems quite intent on keeping cure potency on the prism staff, but they are not planning to add -PDT.
    That surprises me. The magian staff Arka IV gives cure potency +24%, and all jobs that would use a staff for cures/assist cures are on the Arka IV.
    Unless... the cure potency on Prism Staff also affects pet cures? That would be cool. PUP and SMN could slap on a nice bonus to their pet cures then.
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    I love the idea of a synergy augment based on element to solve any differences. But more importantly, we need this for Magian staves. Make it relic hard for all we care, not like anyone uses claustrum.
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    Prism staff? Garbage.

    Nobody wants a staff with tons of 100 subpar stats, and if they do they should keep quiet. Unless this prism staff can offer the same benefits as the magian 99 staves then this prism staff is a waste of time and is ~2 years too late. Any mage that is worth anything uses magian staves to augment their primary magical functions and a prism staff will do nothing to reduce the need for tons of magian staves...

    Instead of a prism stave, there should be some synergy recipesto combine magian staves. For example, combine the dark, fire, earth, and ice magic damage staves together into a one "Darkness" stave that has the same magic damage for all such staves. Across the board, a mage could then get by with 2 staves for nuking, 2 staves for magic accuracy, and 2 staves to cover all the avatars, etc. (I think leaving cure staff as stand alone is perfectly sensible). Alternative to a synergy of gear, you could have a new magian staff path that requires you to start a new staff and has a few preliminary trials that require you kill under do multi-element conditions and then the final trials require a trade in of the completed 99 staves that we actually care about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinuviel View Post
    Nobody wants a staff with tons of 100 subpar stats, and if they do they should keep quiet. Unless this prism staff can offer the same benefits as the magian 99 staves then this prism staff is a waste of time and is ~2 years too late. Any mage that is worth anything uses magian staves to augment their primary magical functions and a prism staff will do nothing to reduce the need for tons of magian staves...
    You seem to miss the purpose of the Prism Staff. It's not intended to replace the ultimate magian staves.
    Prism Staff WOULD beat magian staves on their secondary bonus, and that is exactly where the attractiveness lies.
    As RDM, I never bothered with the magian staves except Arka IV, because our nuking is subpar no matter what you throw at it, and magic accuracy is no problem when stuff is either outright immune or unable to resist RDM's enfeebling skill to any degree.

    Simply put, Prism Staff is the RDM of staves. You'd use a BLM for nuking or a WHM for healing (magian staves), but if you can cope with less then maxed nuking/healing, RDM can do both and free up a slot.

    I just hope obtaining it involves the lvl 51 NQ/HQ elemental staves, so that the last remaining vestige of that market isn't utterly destroyed. (And I can put my collection of hand-crafted HQ staves to good use.)
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    Last edited by Kristal; 03-04-2012 at 09:20 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    Simply put, Prism Staff is the RDM of staves.
    Is right now a good time for me to pitch a shield version of this item?
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