Prism Staff (name pending)

[Tile]

I keep seeing everyone requesting -pdt and no one asking for -dt. Did I miss something?

its because the earth/terra's staff is Physical. and if they did -20 Dt im sure something stupid would happen. like every Ochain Pld would get one and swap it in everytime they about to get nuked

[Kristal]

Really? That's the first time I'm hearing about this. How do you know?

I think it was discovered by analyzing existing gear and dev responses over the years. There have been remarks about being unable to add more stats to certain items, even though there are items with more individual stats. So you can have an item with HP, MP, STR, VIT, DEX, INT, MND, CHR and all 8 resists (Jeweled Collar +1 comes close to that), but you cannot have an item with an similar number of Attack, MAB, MACC, Store TP, Haste, hHP, hMP, etc. I think the limit of those is 5. (Not including things like Sets (1), Augments/Evoliths (3), etc.)

Camate's post also suggests this, although I'm not sure if there is actual hard evidence for it. (As it would require the actual code of FFXI.)

all this discussion about what stats to have or not have is all based on what that person would use the staff for. thats why I think half the stats should be on a grip, but make them all latent or something so they only kick in if you have the staff. I'm sure with staff/grip combo we wouldn't have to lose any stats.

and please dont make it Synergy. have something like

Alchemy 100
Crystal- w/e
all 8 beads or if you want to make it expensive all 8 Avatar-ites (carbite etc)

this would be the Prism bead used for the staff

Woodworking 100
Wind crystal
Prism bead
Jacaranda Lumber

No beads please >_< That just means goldsmiths get all the profits, and woodworkers are lucky if they can get enough gil from a synth to pay for the next synth... (I know you mention alchemy as the craft, but all the beads are goldsmithing.)

[Zackan]

I have an idea. Make it like a fully custimizable Magian stave. Start with the proposed stats and then each trial removes a bonus but enhances the remaining stats

[tyrantsyn]

its because the earth/terra's staff is Physical. and if they did -20 Dt im sure something stupid would happen. like every Ochain Pld would get one and swap it in everytime they about to get nuked

Not sure how that's stupid, just makes sense. This staff is going to be popular and expensive as hell any ways "IF" it's sell~able. I'd rather have the better option on there than worry about something that could or could not happen.

[Wesa]

At the risk of sounding a little bitter, why is it that for bards, the equivalent item is their relic weapon, but this is just being designed as an all-jobs item? I'm still quite sick of having to lug around 13 different instruments just to be a reasonably effective bard.

[Windwhisper]

If there truly will be a Prism staff i beg you to utilize the Magian Trials as mentioned in various other forums.

for instance: 8 avatar staves or 8 elemental staves of the same kind will upgrade to a prism staff. we do not want easy rewards for nothing, but this would definetly a reward worth taking the trial.

i myself have 8 SMN staves and 5 MAB staves. if you would initialize a trial that utilizes something like
*prism - Magic affinity DMG +6, Magic acc +1* the 4 missing trials would become worth undertaking.

Please do not invent a prism staff worth of the 8 lvl 51 staves, as the result would not be worth undertaking.

thank you for understanding.

[pkiverson]

This is ok I suppose, but it seems long overdue and outdated. Why not combine the Magian Trial staves instead?

Add 3 more trials:

Trial 1:
*Trade Atar I, Vourukasha I, Vayuvata I, Vishrava I, Apamajas I, Haoma I, Arka I, Xsaeta I to the chest.
*Result: Prism Staff I: All Affinities: Magic Accuracy+1, Magic Damage+6, Casting time -14%

Trial 2:
*Trade Atar II, Vourukasha II, Vayuvata II, Vishrava II, Apamajas II, Haoma II, Arka II, Xsaeta II to the chest.
*Result: Prism Staff II: All Affinities: Magic Accuracy+6, Magic Damage+1, Recast time -14%

Trial 3:
*Trade Atar III, Vourukasha III, Vayuvata III, Vishrava III, Apamajas III, Haoma III, Arka III, Xsaeta III to the chest.
*Result: Prism Staff III: All Affinities: Avatar perp. cost -7, "Blood Pact" Delay: -12

These trials would only free up inventory space. Someone with a Prism Staff would be no more effective than someone with all 8 elemental staves.

[Camate]

Alrighty, I followed up on some your questions and suggestions.

In regards to the question about whether the "affinity: magic attack +2" and what not would be the same as the Magian staves, I was told that it would be closer to the stats on the original elemental staves.

Also, the development team seems quite intent on keeping cure potency on the prism staff, but they are not planning to add -PDT.

Finally, there have been some comments about making a prism-type staff that would combine all of the Magian staves. While your suggestions are of course always welcome, we would like to keep this to a separate discussion and will look into this another time.

[Arcon]

At the risk of sounding a little bitter, why is it that for bards, the equivalent item is their relic weapon, but this is just being designed as an all-jobs item? I'm still quite sick of having to lug around 13 different instruments just to be a reasonably effective bard.

So you'd prefer a completely useless relic, like all other non-melee jobs? Be lucky you can at least use your relic.

And no, this is not the same. This is as if Gjallarhorn would give all songs +1. An inventory saver that makes you worse. That's the Prism Staff.

Finally, there have been some comments about making a prism-type staff that would combine all of the Magian staves. While your suggestions are of course always welcome, we would like to keep this to a separate discussion and will look into this another time.

Now this, this is what I'm talking about. I'm really excited about this, even if it won't happen for another year or so. Just for the love of everything that's holy don't make it worse than the single-element staves or it will still be just "meh".

[Cowardlybabooon]

I love the idea of a synergy augment based on element to solve any differences. But more importantly, we need this for Magian staves. Make it relic hard for all we care, not like anyone uses claustrum.