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    Player Starry's Avatar
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    Personally reflect would fit better with an entirely different class, rather then any of the current ones[although thats obviously not going to happen]. That being said, the class it 'fits' with most would be scholar. Best fit isn't necessarily all we have to take into effect though.

    Scholar got embrava(absolutely amazing) and whm recently got revamped to really be the end-all-be-all of healing and really(and while it could be argued it makes sense for whm to get it; they dont need it). All that taken into account, I think it fits well and would help PLD more then any class at the moment.

    It's effects would have to worked around depending on which job gets it as well(if it's only going to be a 1 class spell). As for if it could be subbed; no thanks. We already have so many 'class defining' skills that are now subbed that everything is blending together and losing any sort of distinctiveness. We need more defining(and varied) abilities/spells spread out; rather then just giving everything to everyone at this point.

    [Side note: It should most definitely go to Carbuncle as it's been a carbuncle staple for a very long time. It's potency would need to depend on the above mentioned things though.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yambo99 View Post
    Because i'm going to abuse reflect whilst soloing, instead of being in a party.... oh wait.

    Stop wasting my time with a pathetic response.

    K thanks.
    It was a joke, lighten up!
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    I am happy with a 10% magical counter.
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    PLD, single-target, 100% activation, reflects all SINGLE TARGET magic back on the caster, including support and healing spells. Reflect would not affect -ga or -ja spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    PLD, single-target, 100% activation, reflects all SINGLE TARGET magic back on the caster, including support and healing spells. Reflect would not affect -ga or -ja spells.
    i totally agree with this.
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    Paladin Occasionally absorbs damage taken as it is also Reprisal, Asking for Paladin to get reflect is a joke would totally over power the job.

    100% Reflect for said amount of time with a fair recast.
    WHM - Reflect & Reflectga.
    SMN - Cait-Sith if Cait-Sith not being added to Final Fantasy XI give it to Carbuncle Reflectga.
    RDM - Reflect single target any target.
    Giving SCH Reflect and letting /Sch Reflectga would totally break this spell. Just like How subbing /rdm and getting convert and Refresh broke Red Mage.

    all and all this is my personal opinion to each their own!
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    i think it should go to rdm and sch, single target but can cast on PT Members (if its a spell)

    they could also make it an ability thing or like a jobtrait (like counter since they mentioned it anyways) so the job who has it.. for example PLD.. has like a 5% chance to reflect "aggressive" spells on him)

    maybe a combination of spell + jobtrait would be nice... a jobtrait what gives all the time a small chance to reflect magic and a spell casted on others which will reflect aggressive spell 100% for 1 Spell. Which would need some recast so you cant just cycle it around to everyone.. would be to overpowered

    1. Type of Reflect, Reflect II
    see above, (nothing you posted like i would think it should work ^^)

    2. Job or jobs that should learn Reflect:
    c) RDM e) SCH (100% Chance to reflect 1 spell, stays active 1 min or until one spell reflected)
    f) PLD (as a Job Trait, small chance to reflect, allways active)
    l) SMN (Carby) but not 100% Reflect, AoE which last like 1 min and has a 10-20% Chance to reflect)

    3. Should Reflect be available as a subjob spell?
    a) No


    4. How many tiers of the spell would be nice?
    a) 1

    5. Spellcasting range?
    b) Any party member

    6. Reflection method/methods?
    a) Magic damage you would have recieved by an opponent.
    b) Negative status effect you would have recieved by an opponent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krashport View Post
    Paladin Occasionally absorbs damage taken as it is also Reprisal, Asking for Paladin to get reflect is a joke would totally over power the job.

    100% Reflect for said amount of time with a fair recast.
    WHM - Reflect & Reflectga.
    SMN - Cait-Sith if Cait-Sith not being added to Final Fantasy XI give it to Carbuncle Reflectga.
    RDM - Reflect single target any target.
    Giving SCH Reflect and letting /Sch Reflectga would totally break this spell. Just like How subbing /rdm and getting convert and Refresh broke Red Mage.

    all and all this is my personal opinion to each their own!
    It would totally overpower the job? Really...reallly...? So it's right on the cusp of OP now? Then why in the heck don't we ever see a pld doing anything in any event..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    It would totally overpower the job? Really...reallly...? So it's right on the cusp of OP now? Then why in the heck don't we ever see a pld doing anything in any event..lol
    So you're saying, Your Paladin "Needs" Reflect to better at it's Job and after Paladin gets Reflect you'll be in every... event!?
    Also MNK, THF, WAR tanks better! lul!

    Here let me spell it out for you, Why in the world would Paladin "Need" Reflect. Paladin has many ways to avoid Damage taken if your Paladin "Needs" Reflect You're doing it wrong. But to each their own some are just gimp like that I guess... Personally this is just a show off spell game worked just fine without it, But it is very cool that it might be added. ^^

    Reprisal - Increases chance of blocking with shield, and reflects portion of blocked damage back to attacker.
    Phalanx - Gives you a certain amount of "Damage resistance". Which is both "Physical & Magical Damage".
    Rampart - Grants a Magic Shield effect and enhances defense for party members within area of effect.
    Creed Armor +2 Set - Set proc believed to be somewhere around 5%-15%.
    last but not least Mitigates Damage.
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    Player Starry's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krashport View Post
    So you're saying, Your Paladin "Needs" Reflect to better at it's Job and after Paladin gets Reflect you'll be in every... event!?
    Also MNK, THF, WAR tanks better! lul!

    Here let me spell it out for you, Why in the world would Paladin "Need" Reflect. Paladin has many ways to avoid Damage taken if your Paladin "Needs" Reflect You're doing it wrong. But to each their own some are just gimp like that I guess... Personally this is just a show off spell game worked just fine without it, But it is very cool that it might be added. ^^

    Reprisal - Increases chance of blocking with shield, and reflects portion of blocked damage back to attacker.
    Phalanx - Gives you a certain amount of "Damage resistance". Which is both "Physical & Magical Damage".
    Rampart - Grants a Magic Shield effect and enhances defense for party members within area of effect.
    Creed Armor +2 Set - Set proc believed to be somewhere around 5%-15%.
    last but not least Mitigates Damage.
    Your ignorance hurts my brain. As for not knowing how to play paladin, or my paladin being gimp; PLD itself is gimp. There is 0 content in the game currently where a paladin is needed, optimal, or useful. Did I say that reflect would change that? Nope. Did your lack of reading comprehension assume that? Yup.
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