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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Your ignorance hurts my brain. As for not knowing how to play paladin, or my paladin being gimp; PLD itself is gimp. There is 0 content in the game currently where a paladin is needed, optimal, or useful. Did I say that reflect would change that? Nope. Did your lack of reading comprehension assume that? Yup.
    Ask the right question, Then you might get the right answer... You did ask.. But coming off the way you did sounds like your Paladin "Needs" Reflect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Then why in the heck don't we ever see a pld doing anything in any event..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krashport View Post

    Here let me spell it out for you, Why in the world would Paladin "Need" Reflect. Paladin has many ways to avoid Damage taken if your Paladin "Needs" Reflect You're doing it wrong.

    Fun Fact a Paladins weakness is magic, and its a painful weakness too which is why the pld only Aegis breaks magic DMG cap. Ever use invincible Paladin's ultimate move only to be struck by a rogue nuke and killed? Now Aegis is not an excuse to keep PLD away from reflect since Aegis is not a common players item.

    All that said PLD still shouldn't get Reflect, not because it is anywhere near being OP or useful, but rather because it doesn't fit Paladins job. Paladin uses curative and divine magic to aid it in combat, it gains protect and shell through a loop hole of sorts but, remains barred from all other forms of enhancement magic. No paladin in FF history had Reflect as I recall, not as a job specific trait that is. (auto-reflect ability in FFIX for example doesnt count, nor the grids of X or XII since anyone can learn anything.) It simply doesn't make sense, though thats not to say a party member version of reflect wouldn't help it greatly.

    Speaking of perhaps RDM should get Reflect II as Merit G3 and this one is party castable unlike the self cast Reflect I of rdm and perhaps smn/blu/sch. Would keep the ability to Reflect a perk of Rdm even if other jobs get it via alternate means (Avatar/Enemy Ability)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    1. b
    2. e and c
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    4. b
    5. b
    6. a, b, and f
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    1. I can settle with either A or B
    2. C, E, F & L (Carbuncle). Maybe H as well
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    Saying the word poll dose not make it a poll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    Saying the word poll dose not make it a poll.
    Officially no, but you can't deny its an easy way for com reps to gather data. As opposed to the random ramblings of most threads. Official or not it is in fact a poll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    Oh, I didn't specify in the first post. BLU and another job getting Reflect wouldn't be farfetched. Would just need to have different names between the two categories White Magic, Black Magic, and Blue Magic. If anyone's ranting about that, oh well.
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    I like playing dnc. But, as galka, they should have natural earth damage to most dnc abilities.

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    redmage only please, castable on others and accenionable, thank you.

    1-3 "charges", 100% proc , can't reflect -aga, lasts 5 minutes.
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    Last edited by Concerned4FFxi; 02-29-2012 at 01:16 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Your ignorance hurts my brain. As for not knowing how to play paladin, or my paladin being gimp; PLD itself is gimp. There is 0 content in the game currently where a paladin is needed, optimal, or useful. Did I say that reflect would change that? Nope. Did your lack of reading comprehension assume that? Yup.
    I disagree with the bolded word. While PLD might not be needed or optimal, it's one of the jobs that can be useful in almost any situation, more so in Abyssea, but it's not without uses outside either. I strongly feel Paladin is the most versatile job the game has to offer, even if it currently doesn't excel at anything except having the best survival of all other jobs.

    Also, as was stated, PLDs main weakness is Magic. Short of having an Aegis (and probably even with one), chances are that the thing that is going to kill you is magic damage. Not necessarily a spell, but yea.

    In theory, a PLD reflecting damaging spells could potentially increase their ability to do damage to a heavy casting enemy. In this case, you would want a PLD to do the tanking so that heavy damaging spells not only don't hurt anyone in the party, it can potentially do moderate damage to the enemy.
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    1. 100% activation, off after 1 spell, short duration, recast in the stun range
    2. RDM (single target only) SMN (Carbuncle - AOE subject to ward timer)
    3. No subjobs
    4. 1 tier - RDM can use a new merit ability to enhance potency of reflected spells, a la FFIX
    5. Any party member
    6. Reflect single target and aoe spells from opponent only
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