Dynamis - Mad

[Starry]

I don't see why they get mad at you. I usually get thanked when I kill their unclaimed mobs they left at 10%~ Which I'm not sure why they thank me, they are the ones giving me free currency; so I can't complain.

[Tsuneo]

You're all suckers for actually doing Dynamis, but I guess if no one did it than I wouldn't have anywhere to buy currency.

[Glamdring]

It has recently come to my attention that Beastmasters are not aware that when a monster is unclaimed, it is fair game. If I run past you and you are fighting 4 different monsters 2-3 of which unclaimed, I will gladly take it upon myself to help you out.

Just because you can hold 4 different monsters, it doesn't mean you are entitled to them. If you can't keep them claimed - don't Q_Q.

If this is the provocation you need to sprew 15 different delicious flavours of mad in say or shout, then Beastmaster probably isn't the job for you.


Alternatively - stop taking on 4 mobs and throwing a tantrum when a DD comes along to finish one off for you. We really don't mind helping you out, and will continue to do so - and we appreciate the TH you've applied for us (yours, for a limited time only!)

I am a beast, we're very aware of it, yellow is yellow. Personally, I've never seen much point in doing 4 at once, 1-2 at a time is a great deal more efficient in terms of time and control. If SE really wants to fix what you are ACTUALLY complaining about the answer is stupendously simple-if the mob goes yellow, you lose the proc and have to redo it-that should fix all the whining in either direction.

[Yinnyth]

It has recently come to my attention that Beastmasters are not aware that when a monster is unclaimed, it is fair game. If I run past you and you are fighting 4 different monsters 2-3 of which unclaimed, I will gladly take it upon myself to help you out.

Just because you can hold 4 different monsters, it doesn't mean you are entitled to them. If you can't keep them claimed - don't Q_Q.

If this is the provocation you need to sprew 15 different delicious flavours of mad in say or shout, then Beastmaster probably isn't the job for you.


Alternatively - stop taking on 4 mobs and throwing a tantrum when a DD comes along to finish one off for you. We really don't mind helping you out, and will continue to do so - and we appreciate the TH you've applied for us (yours, for a limited time only!)

If you see a large group of players camping enemies on an even larger scale, do you merrily walk through picking off their unclaimed, yet slept mobs? Or is it only in the presence of a solo BST that your less appealing social tendencies take over?

[SpankWustler]

If SE really wants to fix what you are ACTUALLY complaining about the answer is stupendously simple-if the mob goes yellow, you lose the proc and have to redo it-that should fix all the whining in either direction.

This solution would slightly lower the overall amount of currency produced. Which makes me wonder...

Are you sure you aren't actually a member of a the FFXI Development Team? For instance, do you suspect that you drink office supplies and develop a new chapter of Voidwatch during each full moon? Do you sometimes add salt to a friend's coffee or tea instead of sugar, and tell them you did it to provide "balance"?

If you see a large group of players camping enemies on an even larger scale, do you merrily walk through picking off their unclaimed, yet slept mobs?

I like this as a rhetorical question. I can't imagine a large group of players would leave proc'ed monsters alive (claimed or not) long enough for this situation to actually come up, though.

[Yinnyth]

It's a matter of selfishness vs. selfishness. Solo BST vs. several mobs, they do that to maximize their efficiency. Other dude walks in, takes already procced, half-dead mobs and finishes them off. Partly because they want the easy money, partly because they just want to be annoying to the BST.

So I wondered if this selfishness is only strong enough to screw over one type of player, or if an entire group of players hogging "your" mobs would be enough to set you off and attempt to screw them over with as much spite as you treat BSTs. That being said, it was intended as rhetorical to hopefully force a little introspection. I know the answer because there's a half-dozen of these threads addressed specifically to BSTs and...... exactly 0 threads directed at any other job or playstyle which steps on someone's toes in Dynamis.

[Alderin]

Yes, yellow is yellow - yet that is just plain rude.

Sure if they are holding 3-4 mobs during a busy time, they are asking for it. Especially if it's holding 4x potential pops when the area is currently empty - they kind of deserve it. However I also imagine you are the kind of person that would run over to a BST in an area that already has full pops and finish off their half dead mob - just to be a pain in the arse and piss people off.

Rudeness is rude. If they aren't dramatically decreasing your efficiency, then leave them alone.

On that note, same can be said about the party of 4-5 thf's and sam's that pull every mob in the zone and zerg everything down as fast as they can.

Don't have a cry because some jobs are more efficient at farming currency then ones you currently have levelled.

[Zinato]

It's a matter of selfishness vs. selfishness. Solo BST vs. several mobs, they do that to maximize their efficiency. Other dude walks in, takes already procced, half-dead mobs and finishes them off. Partly because they want the easy money, partly because they just want to be annoying to the BST.

So I wondered if this selfishness is only strong enough to screw over one type of player, or if an entire group of players hogging "your" mobs would be enough to set you off and attempt to screw them over with as much spite as you treat BSTs. That being said, it was intended as rhetorical to hopefully force a little introspection. I know the answer because there's a half-dozen of these threads addressed specifically to BSTs and...... exactly 0 threads directed at any other job or playstyle which steps on someone's toes in Dynamis.

People use BST as a scapegoat, someone to direct their anger too. A job does better then them at something nerf it is how alot of people think. WAR does DMG best NERF IT! RDM tanks best NERF IT! BST gets dynamis currency best NERF IT!

You know when players say stupid stuff like this SE listens, so here's one that I bet the THF crowd will like. Following the BST update THF will have 7 more TH after proc then any other job that's over 3 times as much. That seems OP to me, if WHM cured 3 times better the other healers they would nerf it, if any DD did 3 times DMG they would nerf it. Plus that's me taking into account RNG TH were it not for that it would be 4x more powerful.

People don't hate BST, they hate competition and since BST is the most common job they think BST = Competition. Which is funny actually, an ls mate of mine likes to go into dynamis on THF and steals proced yellow mobs from BST and party alike. Not once in over 5 runs of this has he been yelled at by any player. Not BST = Not problem. However, to avoid taking responsibility for creating a PvP zone out of Dynamis SE is happily nerfing BST to avoid fixing the Proc system/rate.

[Rezeak]

It has recently come to my attention that Beastmasters are not aware that when a monster is unclaimed, it is fair game. If I run past you and you are fighting 4 different monsters 2-3 of which unclaimed, I will gladly take it upon myself to help you out.

Just because you can hold 4 different monsters, it doesn't mean you are entitled to them. If you can't keep them claimed - don't Q_Q.

If this is the provocation you need to sprew 15 different delicious flavours of mad in say or shout, then Beastmaster probably isn't the job for you.


Alternatively - stop taking on 4 mobs and throwing a tantrum when a DD comes along to finish one off for you. We really don't mind helping you out, and will continue to do so - and we appreciate the TH you've applied for us (yours, for a limited time only!)

WTF ..... at least thx me for procing the mob for you too lol

Mistral axe is now my fav weapon skill in Dyna waiting for a white mob to hit 10% then go white then BOOM from 10-15 distance away i throw my axe at it and COINS!!!!!

[Zinato]

WTF ..... at least thx me for procing the mob for you too lol

Mistral axe is now my fav weapon skill in Dyna waiting for a white mob to hit 10% then go white then BOOM from 10-15 distance away i throw my axe at it and COINS!!!!!

Don't get the wrong impression I don't have THF nor do I steal proc'd mobs. That doesn't mean I don't find it hilarious that people are so blinded by "BST is the enemy" that they allow a THF to do such things unchallenged. BST has become the first widespread case of Racism within the game. I've even begun seeing made up slang for BST as a job, and people verbally attack both the player character and the person at the keyboard, many times without any form of provoking. By this I mean outside Dynamis/Abyssea minding their own business farming geodes, doing trials etc. This whole issue is mostly over currency BTW, and in some rare cases abyssea. (Not that every player shouldn't have 2K+ stones by now, time shouldn't be an issue anymore.)