Reflect

[Camate]

Seems like there is a bunch of talk about Reflect going down over the JP forums and gained enough momentum to where the development team is going to look into whether or not they can get this classic FINAL FANTASY spell into the game.

Things that can be potentially taken care of:

• 1 on 1 reflection
This is basically the same system as Counter, so it seems like it is a possibility.
In the case that both have Reflect up, we can deal with this by adding a rule that “You cannot counter with counter.”

• Reflected damage calculation

• Log display of reflected effect
“→Reflect! ○○ takes ×× damage.”



Difficulties:

• Reflecting spells you cast on yourself

• Random reflection
In the case that the target is not decided, the system will search the area for monsters and decide. If this happens every time Reflect is activated, there is a high chance that it would cause a lot of lag and in the worst case scenario crash the servers.

• AoE Spell reflection
If we made Reflect function like Counter, this would be quite difficult.

• Effect animation
In the whole flow of the spell taking action: spell activates → reflect animation is displayed → reflected spell animation is displayed on yourself, this final part is impossible to do, and the best we can do is cut this animation and only display it in the log. Additionally, the animation needs to be in the memory, but there is a pending concern that the size would be pretty rough.

Stats
Besides the system itself, stats of the spell will need to be adjusted very carefully. Since you would be invincible against single-target spells as well as deal damage by reflecting them, this is an extremely powerful effect, so we would not be doing exactly this. We would need a good amount of time to test and balance this just right.
　
While nothing is for certain yet, please understand that this is still a ways off, but we would like to look into this more.

[Zeroe]

Although I would like to see reflect implemented, I feel the American Base is being ignored when we suggest something. We cry over horrid drop rates, complain 2 hours need a adjustment for jobs, and weapon skills that need buffed. But when JP wants feedback about reflect, they actually get it. >.>

[Dreamin]

Although I would like to see reflect implemented, I feel the American Base is being ignored when we suggest something. We cry over horrid drop rates, complain 2 hours need a adjustment for jobs, and weapon skills that need buffed. But when JP wants feedback about reflect, they actually get it. >.>

You sound surprised by this.

[Luvbunny]

You sound surprised by this.

They did listen to the VW complaints and gave us tickets, they did listen to WoE and try their hardest to tweak it to become more popular, they did listen to puppet master and tweaked the job, etc... We got the Falcor pet jug which is FAR more useful than the scorpion pet would have been - though now they decide to nerf the TH3. Some they did listen and implemented the changes, but not all, perhaps they have not enough resources and man power.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

They did listen to the VW complaints and gave us tickets, they did listen to WoE and try their hardest to tweak it to become more popular, they did listen to puppet master and tweaked the job, etc...

No they did not listen, they adressed it here after it was brought up in the JP forums.

[Zinato]

Although I would like to see reflect implemented, I feel the American Base is being ignored when we suggest something. We cry over horrid drop rates, complain 2 hours need a adjustment for jobs, and weapon skills that need buffed. But when JP wants feedback about reflect, they actually get it. >.>

Add new thing or fix old thing that would admit a mistake?

That aside, dream come true. I'm just scared its going to be on afterglow Mythic for RDM.

[Ryce]

Although I would like to see reflect implemented, I feel the American Base is being ignored when we suggest something. We cry over horrid drop rates, complain 2 hours need a adjustment for jobs, and weapon skills that need buffed. But when JP wants feedback about reflect, they actually get it. >.>

Maybe you have your answer right here? Just saying.

Note: I do not know the tone of discussion on the Japanese forum, as I don't speak Japanese. I do know the tone of most posts on the English forum, and I wouldn't be pumped about communicating most of that to the devs/management if I were the translator.

[SpankWustler]

I would have never thought such a thing would be considered. I'm interested to see where this goes.

I just hope Reflect goes to Red Mage if it's implemented. Maybe Scholar or even Paladin rather than White Mage. I'd love to have such a spell on my favorite job and all, but it's already the strongest out of the jobs that might receive such a spell and a single-target Enhancing spell would be pretty odd for White Mage anyway.

Maybe you have your answer right here? Just saying.

Note: I do not know the tone of discussion on the Japanese forum, as I don't speak Japanese. I do know the tone of most posts on the English forum, and I wouldn't be pumped about communicating most of that to the devs/management if I were the translator.

Tone does not need to be communicated along with content. Although, it would be pretty funny if half the stuff the English Community Reps communicated to the Development Bros started with "After writing a novella about how you guys run around the office naked and hallucinating, which made me feel a bit envious of your department, someone mentioned..." or "Seasoned with oddly capitalized profanity and lurid references to the basest parts of the human anatomy, the general sentiment was..."

I think the tone used could be a "chicken or egg?" kind of issue, too. My primary goal with my posts is to amuse myself because I feel confident that self-amusement is most productive thing that will ever come of anything that I post. If something happened to make my feeling about that change, my goal would change too.

[Zirael]

Although I would like to see reflect implemented, I feel the American Base is being ignored when we suggest something. We cry over horrid drop rates, complain 2 hours need a adjustment for jobs, and weapon skills that need buffed. But when JP wants feedback about reflect, they actually get it. >.>

Still no news about Cheese Sandwich adjustments
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/ar.../t-17942.html?