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    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    2012 is pretty far into the era of self-reliance. Damn near everything can be solo'd or, at worst, dou'd.

    Advice #1: If you can't solo something, improve yourself until you are able to.

    Advice #2: If you want to make friends, do it for the right reasons. If you just want people to help with stuff, it'll become fairly obvious and no one will. If people offer to help? Cool. If they don't? No problem. Don't nag, don't guilt, don't pester.

    Advice #3: Self-reliant people are far better at making friends. Everyone knows "Hey bro, can you lend me a fiver" Johnny. Whether he forgot his wallet at home, or doesn't get paid till Wednesday, Hey Bro Johnny is always asking for small favors and loans. No one likes Hey Bro Johnny. This same principle applies to FFXI. No one likes "Hey Bro, can you help me with this level 50 CoP NM that I am somehow incapable of solo'ing at level 99" Johnny.

    Advice #4: Linkshells. Don't expect them to do work for you. Don't expect them to owe you anything for being a member. Don't expect anyone to give a damn about you just because you have a pearl. Life does not work that way. If you join a linkshell, join it because you enjoy the member's company and they enjoy yours. Your missions are your business, not the group's.

    Advice #5: Never ask for help on something that you haven't already tried solo. In fact, never ask for help on things if you can avoid it. Weird advice, right? People like people who are willing to take the initiative and go solo something even if it's too hard. When you've died 3 or 4 times, and keep doing it anyways, people are more likely to offer their help on their own and feel good about it rather than feeling obligated or forced.

    General Message: So long as your attitude is one where you feel that you need people's help, you will not get it. We don't like that attitude. People never grow out of it, no matter how powerful their character is or how long they've played - They always need "Help". Help your damn self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    2012 is pretty far into the era of self-reliance. Damn near everything can be solo'd or, at worst, dou'd.

    Advice #1: If you can't solo something, improve yourself until you are able to.

    Advice #2: If you want to make friends, do it for the right reasons. If you just want people to help with stuff, it'll become fairly obvious and no one will. If people offer to help? Cool. If they don't? No problem. Don't nag, don't guilt, don't pester.

    Advice #3: Self-reliant people are far better at making friends. Everyone knows "Hey bro, can you lend me a fiver" Johnny. Whether he forgot his wallet at home, or doesn't get paid till Wednesday, Hey Bro Johnny is always asking for small favors and loans. No one likes Hey Bro Johnny. This same principle applies to FFXI. No one likes "Hey Bro, can you help me with this level 50 CoP NM that I am somehow incapable of solo'ing at level 99" Johnny.

    Advice #4: Linkshells. Don't expect them to do work for you. Don't expect them to owe you anything for being a member. Don't expect anyone to give a damn about you just because you have a pearl. Life does not work that way. If you join a linkshell, join it because you enjoy the member's company and they enjoy yours. Your missions are your business, not the group's.

    Advice #5: Never ask for help on something that you haven't already tried solo. In fact, never ask for help on things if you can avoid it. Weird advice, right? People like people who are willing to take the initiative and go solo something even if it's too hard. When you've died 3 or 4 times, and keep doing it anyways, people are more likely to offer their help on their own and feel good about it rather than feeling obligated or forced.

    General Message: So long as your attitude is one where you feel that you need people's help, you will not get it. We don't like that attitude. People never grow out of it, no matter how powerful their character is or how long they've played - They always need "Help". Help your damn self.
    You wasted your time trolling and typing this clutter of troll sauce. Nothing you said applies to me. If you want to lecture someone you should just get a kid. Your post wasn't helpful or informative. If I had someone to duo with, I wouldn't be debating a server change. Could you please post a video of yourself soloing Treasure of aht urhgan mission 44. So, that I can better myself.
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    Last edited by Rightchaus; 02-23-2012 at 03:51 AM.

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    Player Aldersyde's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rightchaus View Post
    You wasted your time trolling and typing this clutter of troll sauce. Nothing you said applies to me. If you want to lecture someone you should just get a kid. Your post wasn't helpful or informative. If I had someone to duo with, I wouldn't be debating a server change. Could you please post a video of yourself soloing Treasure of aht urhgan mission 44. So, that I can better myself.
    I thought it was pretty solid advice. I've been in social shells and nothing is more annoying than a new member getting his pearl then proceeding to bombard everyone with requests for help. Or constantly complaining they can't get help and guilt-tripping everyone they come into contact with. I'm not adverse to helping people but I'm not gonna be swayed by guilt-tripping, woe-is-me whining and learned helplessness; at least try to be an enjoyable person, make wanting to help sound fun and not a chore.

    Judging by your response to Greatguardian, you have a bit of chip on your shoulder. If you have problems getting people to help you, maybe you should look at yourself and your strategy for enlisting aid first. You are the common denominator in all those interactions. Honestly, if you are having that much trouble finding ONE person to duo with, I don't think changing servers is going to help you.

    Oh, and the definition of trolling isn't when people respond to you with answers that you don't like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rightchaus View Post
    You wasted your time trolling and typing this clutter of troll sauce. Nothing you said applies to me. If you want to lecture someone you should just get a kid. Your post wasn't helpful or informative. If I had someone to duo with, I wouldn't be debating a server change. Could you please post a video of yourself soloing Treasure of aht urhgan mission 44. So, that I can better myself.
    It's actually soloable by BLU atm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    2012 is pretty far into the era of self-reliance. Damn near everything can be solo'd or, at worst, dou'd.

    Advice #1: If you can't solo something, improve yourself until you are able to.

    Advice #2: If you want to make friends, do it for the right reasons. If you just want people to help with stuff, it'll become fairly obvious and no one will. If people offer to help? Cool. If they don't? No problem. Don't nag, don't guilt, don't pester.

    Advice #3: Self-reliant people are far better at making friends. Everyone knows "Hey bro, can you lend me a fiver" Johnny. Whether he forgot his wallet at home, or doesn't get paid till Wednesday, Hey Bro Johnny is always asking for small favors and loans. No one likes Hey Bro Johnny. This same principle applies to FFXI. No one likes "Hey Bro, can you help me with this level 50 CoP NM that I am somehow incapable of solo'ing at level 99" Johnny.

    Advice #4: Linkshells. Don't expect them to do work for you. Don't expect them to owe you anything for being a member. Don't expect anyone to give a damn about you just because you have a pearl. Life does not work that way. If you join a linkshell, join it because you enjoy the member's company and they enjoy yours. Your missions are your business, not the group's.

    Advice #5: Never ask for help on something that you haven't already tried solo. In fact, never ask for help on things if you can avoid it. Weird advice, right? People like people who are willing to take the initiative and go solo something even if it's too hard. When you've died 3 or 4 times, and keep doing it anyways, people are more likely to offer their help on their own and feel good about it rather than feeling obligated or forced.

    General Message: So long as your attitude is one where you feel that you need people's help, you will not get it. We don't like that attitude. People never grow out of it, no matter how powerful their character is or how long they've played - They always need "Help". Help your damn self.
    I think a lot of it just comes down to meeting the right people at the right time, and no amount of self-improvement can create that chance encounter that lands you an awesome linkshell.

    Sometimes you need a hand, and when you don't have a network of friends to fall back on, you're out of luck. It's hard to make friends when you're spending all of your time soloing stuff. I've been there, I've gone through those motions for nearly two years on and off. At the end of it all it made me a decent not terrible player, but left me without a strong support network. I won't pretend it was all me being the victim of circumstance, since I'm quiet and not at all outgoing, but spending a lot of time not interacting with others and just not meeting folks who I hit it off with very often did more to shape my social experience than whether or not I was a mouth-breather that needed his hand held through every piece of content out there.
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    Player Rohelius's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    2012 is pretty far into the era of self-reliance. Damn near everything can be solo'd or, at worst, dou'd.

    Advice #1: If you can't solo something, improve yourself until you are able to.
    So you assume the guy needs improvement and the yet unknown "Wall" is himself...

    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Advice #2: If you want to make friends, do it for the right reasons. If you just want people to help with stuff, it'll become fairly obvious and no one will. If people offer to help? Cool. If they don't? No problem. Don't nag, don't guilt, don't pester.
    So now you attack his reasons and claim that he only wants a new LS and new friends to Nag, guilt and pester?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Advice #3: Self-reliant people are far better at making friends. Everyone knows "Hey bro, can you lend me a fiver" Johnny. Whether he forgot his wallet at home, or doesn't get paid till Wednesday, Hey Bro Johnny is always asking for small favors and loans. No one likes Hey Bro Johnny. This same principle applies to FFXI. No one likes "Hey Bro, can you help me with this level 50 CoP NM that I am somehow incapable of solo'ing at level 99" Johnny.
    Now you compare him to a beggar "Hey Bro Johnny" and practically say he cant solo a lvl 50 bcnm at 99.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Advice #4: Linkshells. Don't expect them to do work for you. Don't expect them to owe you anything for being a member. Don't expect anyone to give a damn about you just because you have a pearl. Life does not work that way. If you join a linkshell, join it because you enjoy the member's company and they enjoy yours. Your missions are your business, not the group's.
    now you tell him LS's are for friends only and not missions/quests/help. Not true and there are several tabs in the LS community to prove it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Advice #5: Never ask for help on something that you haven't already tried solo. In fact, never ask for help on things if you can avoid it. Weird advice, right? People like people who are willing to take the initiative and go solo something even if it's too hard. When you've died 3 or 4 times, and keep doing it anyways, people are more likely to offer their help on their own and feel good about it rather than feeling obligated or forced.
    Now you tell him to not ask for help in a MMO game... then to Kamikaze himself onto a monster 3-4 times until people feel sorry for him and help him...

    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    General Message: So long as your attitude is one where you feel that you need people's help, you will not get it. We don't like that attitude. People never grow out of it, no matter how powerful their character is or how long they've played - They always need "Help". Help your damn self.
    Now after all your "Tips" you expect him to say thank you right?....

    I wish i felt sorry but i don't. And you thinking I'm trolling makes no difference to me.

    The guy asked a question and everyone answered until you posted some self righteous BS with a "Help your damn Self" answer.
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    +1 for Greatguardian.

    That is all.
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    You wasted your time trolling and typing this clutter of troll sauce. Nothing you said applies to me. If you want to lecture someone you should just get a kid. Your post wasn't helpful or informative. If I had someone to duo with, I wouldn't be debating a server change. Could you please post a video of yourself soloing Treasure of aht urhgan mission 44. So, that I can better myself.
    Get a linkshell (you may not like that answer but it's the only one that will get you what you want and it applies to pretty much every MMO there is), people aren't any different on any other server. You won't find a utopia of the FFXI servers where people are standing around waiting to help you for no other reason that to put a smile on your face.

    inb4 trolling
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    I don't think GreatGuardian was trolling, I think he stated an honest observation on how the state of the game today. And in general people do not like others who "always ask for help" when it's obvious where you can actually solo it. Or better, shout for it, chances are you are not the only person who needs the same things done. The game has become much solo friendly today, which is amazing. But on the other end of the spectrum, anyone has enough brain cells will realize that teaming up with others and play well with others benefits you in the long run. I never understand the mentality where you rather solo everything when you can help each other and reap the benefits faster better and greater. Case points - when you do GoV in low populated areas and see the same few people with alts who clearly could benefit from alliance for faster kill and faster exp (for their alts). Or those people who are popping NM for seals, a team of two low man party can cover more procs, kill faster, and maybe help each other if there are seals unclaimed that are going to go to waste anyway.
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    Before GreatGuardian all the posts were positive post that actually were on topic. My OP was about getting insight about other servers. Not about what people who are not me have done. Not about what you feel I should do. I don't have a chip on my shoulder, but you guys are acting like a person shouldn't need help on this game. As I stated, if GreatGuardian would solo Treasure of aht urhgan mission 44. Then, I would see his point about "If you can't solo something, improve yourself until you are able to." Who is this collective "we" you speak about? "So long as your attitude is one where you feel that you need people's help, you will not get it. We don't like that attitude."
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