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    Player Godofgods's Avatar
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    The real question is; will it be only one time obtainable (non repeatable quest) or something you can get many times, despite being hard?

    Because if you can obtain multiples, it will just be a few ppl spamming to get it and selling it at insanely high prices on ah. In which case, it wont relay be anything special. I'm hoping its something more like the sleepaga II quest where its one time only.
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    Are we talking relic scroll quest perhaps? If that be the case well then that might be ok in my book. Araise, meteor, massacre elegy? among others for new quests players can work on rather than have them gifted to us as a drop.


    ...nah SE will just put them on a NM somewhere that's nigh impossible just to get to to fight and call it a day. Extremely difficult doesn't translate to low drop rate on one NM in my book so we're talking the luck factor blessing you by putting you into the position to get a chance at araise.

    Sorry epic scroll quest, take your shit back to EQ where it belongs. We got like 3 people here and can't afford to work on such things anymore. That's why we made the magian fetch trials.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by lllen View Post
    Raisega..........omg what a dream spell. Would be the most popular spell in the game
    Arise is "supposed" to be AoE raise, even though it isn't. Arise comes from Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates and Echoes of Time, where it revives everyone in a large area with full HP/MP.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLbf75-4PLg

    Sums it up.

    When SE says difficult they mean it.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Raise III is a big enough pain to obtain, and I still dont have it for SCH, because it's not worth the AH price and it never seems to drop when I do the BCNMs. If it's going to be harder than that, then nobody should even bother.
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    If Araise is going to be super hard to get I can only imagine what SE has planned for Meteor.

    If BLMs think it's going to be a walk in the park, think again. :P
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    inb4 yagrush only spell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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    Raise III is a big enough pain to obtain, and I still dont have it for SCH, because it's not worth the AH price and it never seems to drop when I do the BCNMs. If it's going to be harder than that, then nobody should even bother.
    I can say with a fair degree of certainty that you, I and most other people that want this spell will never be getting it after reading that. They didn't say with some difficulty, they didn't even say difficult.. they said extreme difficulty (when was the last time they used that term? Stage 2 relic trials I think?). That doesn't mean you will be able to get it with some challenge or from a long series of quests, it means you ain't getting it at all because it will be from something so ridiculous that it will not only require 18-32 players to whatever it is that drops it but it will have a miniscule % drop rate, you might as well forget it (think rare drop from AV at 75 attainable and you will probably be close to it). I highly doubt it will be sellable either, so it will have a R/E tag. Best to just forget it right now as to not be dissapointed lol

    This is going to be a spell that pretty much nobody will have, it won't be like some players having a relic is now it will be so rare that if someone casts it in a few years time you won't know wtf it is cause it will be the first time you see the spell. This is not in any way an update to whm and should not be listed as such, updates to a job should be things listed that all players or the vast majorty are going to be able to obtain. Extreme difficulty with this dev team = forget about it.

    We are now in the era of content designed to block players from doing it and gear with stats they don't want you to have which is given as rewards in such a way to make sure most players won't get it. If they thought players were going to be able to get this spell they would not give it the stats they are, if they thought most players would be able to get 99 relics they would of nerfed the end result back, if they thought most players would be able to get to floor 99 in neo nyzul the last floor rewards would be of the quality that floor 60 mobs give right now. They are adding spells and gear which are basically pipe dream stuff, you ain't getting it and it's only purpose is to serve as the carrot or as a goal for status orientated players to work for to be seen as better than the rest of us.
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    I'm surprised the students of Tanaka's dojo (Dazusu, et al) haven't popped in to endorse the upcoming difficulty of this spell to obtain. I'm sure they're hoping it'll be exclusive to Nyzul Isle 2.0 with a microscopic drop rate so they and their cronies can charge obscene amounts of gil for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    I'm surprised the students of Tanaka's dojo (Dazusu, et al) haven't popped in to endorse the upcoming difficulty of this spell to obtain. I'm sure they're hoping it'll be exclusive to Nyzul Isle 2.0 with a microscopic drop rate so they and their cronies can charge obscene amounts of gil for it.

    See this Alla thread about the last batch of scrolls for a preview of what's to come:

    http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...69476662457373
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