Linkshell Member online notifications.

[cidbahamut]

Convenience? Stimulating social interaction? It works well in every current gen MMO. If you're in a Linkshell where you feel harassed or pressured to attend things (that you didn't agree to do) then you've got bigger problems than worrying about the introduction of such a feature.

If you're not in a Linkshell like that, what's the problem?


A lot of people seem to be using the excuse "what if I want to hide" as a reason against such a feature. There's nothing to say an option can't be added into POL to disable it before logging into the game (something that only has to be set once). Hell, it could be disabled by default.

It's the same as the /tell filters that were added to the game for spam. You could have lost legitimate messages. But there was an option to disable/enable it.

Convenience would be more compelling if not for the fact that people are expressing concerns about the notification being unwanted and somewhat invasive. I agree it'd be convenient, but as our moogle-faced friend pointed out, you have to weigh that against the desire for some modicum of privacy.

I also agree that options are good. If there are sufficient options then there shouldn't be an issue.

[Elexia]

To people like Dazusu, only those who want something matters, not those who may oppose it. Since I mean, you can't talk to anyone or be social without these features apparently...

[Zerich]

We've already said why checking the LS doesn't help. But it's ok, reading comprehension is not required on these forums. Also, nothing suggested is ever needed, and very little is actually broken. Stuff is wanted, that's the sole reason why things are being suggested, and it's a perfectly valid motivation for suggestions. Also, Camate isn't wasting his time on anything, as he's not a dev. If you actually wanna appeal to anyone (without any sort of effect, obviously, as you don't get a say in the matter), learn japanese and tell the devs themselves.

Camate is part of the team that translates and delivers the information posted on the forums to the development team. So if I log on, you can't select "linkshell" >>> "see members" or watch the /l-chat if my name pops up with me saying something? The suggestion to have something like "Person1 has entered the linkshell" is completely superfluous as the inevitable "Hey ls" that usually proceeds.

Btw, thanks for calling me stupid. Real mature.

[Dazusu]

To people like Dazusu, only those who want something matters, not those who may oppose it. Since I mean, you can't talk to anyone or be social without these features apparently...

The point of my post was to counter those arguing it. The main argument is: "I want to hide", my reply is "Add an invisible option to the proposed feature"

If you want to oppose the suggestion - that's great. Acting surprised or playing the defensive when there's a simple counter to your objection is silly, though.

If you're going to try be sarcastic about it, at least put forth enough intelligence to show that you understand the difference between 'stimulate' and 'enable'.

[Kristal]

The point of my post was to counter those arguing it. The main argument is: "I want to hide", my reply is "Add an invisible option to the proposed feature"

Such an option would be turned off (no notification) by default and stay there for the majority of players.
I guess SE could add it for the socialites that can't live without twitter, facebook, and whatever else is the trending hype on social interaction, but I much prefer the more personal approach of someone doing his own greeting.

[Midorikaze]

Atlantica Online has something like this: whenever I log in, a line in the chat log that seems to be server-wide pops up that shows a "greeting" from my character. It is customizable and I see the most random stuff when people log in. Haha.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Apperently looking at the link list to see who's on is too hard.

[Skirata]

Hello everyone!

Firstly, thank you all for posting your views on the merits of having or not having the implementation of a notification for when someone log on to a linkshell. Though please do ensure that your posts remain on topic for this thread and please do not post to attack others. Otherwise the thread will have to be closed down. Thank you again to everyone for posting here and have an excellent day.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I say this will only accomplish 2 things.
1.) Annoy 75%+ of the player base.
2.) Slow the servers down excessively wth added data tracking.

[Arcon]

I say this will only accomplish 2 things.
1.) Annoy 75%+ of the player base.

Set it off by default and that number gets reduced to 0%.

2.) Slow the servers down excessively wth added data tracking.

False.

The only thing it will do is streamline gameplay/communication for everyone, even the people who don't see (or wanna see) the benefits now.