PUP Overpowered a little?

[Gael]

You guys should stop to talk in theory lol

The day you will go to kill AV with 3 pup in the ally... even just 1...

You can also go with 18 pup (with blm automaton) to kill it, i'm sure it can work (no joke), but considering the popularity of Pup, our LS will never let us go with this job to a big mob like that


And just to back to the original thing, we talked about kite, not just prevent a depop of a big NM. And it was with ONE pup, because when you hold it like that, the NM can go unclaim and any other pt/ally can get it.

[Tetsujin]

The puppet tanks worse than a black mage, it damages worse than a bard(my bard has DD gear), it feeds more TP than a THF/WAR with full haste gear, it heals the wrong things, casts too infrequently to be of any use, and it hasn't seen a new attachment since it got the steam jacket which I'm guessing 80% of the people reading this have no idea what it does without reading wiki first. Even the people who do know what it does don't use the stupid thing most of the time.

I'm surprised you could have played PUP so long and still claim all of this.
I'll just addend with some experience of my own:

- Valoredge is hugely underestimated. Sure it can't take hits like PLD but I've had it tank for Assaults before. With the right attachments/maneuver pattern and HQ repairs it's damn impressive. "It can't heal itself" sure, but PUPs get Automaton Oil +2. Don't complain about the price. Either use it or don't embarrass your Valoredge frame.

- The Steam Jacket is pretty good too. Conditionally. Provided the mob only provides one source of damage. That being said, it's a conditional equip, and I use it on Valoredge from time to time.

- Heals the wrong things: yeah I'll admit to that. But understand that for a party of 6, it works as its supposed to. I've had soulsoother as dedicated healer for a pt several times. But in endgame, it only makes sense that no PUP can/SHOULD replace a real WHM.

- Damage. Sharpshot is admittedly an amazing DD frame. I had my puppet close skillchains and do weaponskill damage matching the DRG and SAM (it was a colibri pt.) My typical DD frame for PT's is sharpshot and it definitely delivers.

Sorry, just had to put in my 2 cents. I know it's not as OP as it used to be (when people used to think it sucked ass) but it is in no way a massive pile of ass.