WHM Have NO Natural Refresh Capability, WHY?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

I did say /heal, not heal as in cast Cure.

WHM has Clear Mind V, they /heal as well as SCH, BLM, and SMN when using /heal which they are able to as they don't need to be in the front lines of battle.

This is why PLD and SMN do get auto-refresh, as they can't heal, and WHM is a curer so doesn't have access to spells like Aspir and Refresh as that would then make WHM severely over-powered.

Every job must have it's downfall, otherwise what is the point of multiple jobs, they'd just have one DD and one MAGE. Admittedly as FFXI stands now it does focus on having one DD and one MAGE... MNK & WHM.

[Wolfe]

I did say /heal, not heal as in cast Cure.

WHM has Clear Mind V, they /heal as well as SCH, BLM, and SMN when using /heal which they are able to as they don't need to be in the front lines of battle.

This is why PLD and SMN do get auto-refresh, as they can't heal, and WHM is a curer so doesn't have access to spells like Aspir and Refresh as that would then make WHM severely over-powered.

Every job must have it's downfall, otherwise what is the point of multiple jobs, they'd just have one DD and one MAGE. Admittedly as FFXI stands now it does focus on having one DD and one MAGE... MNK & WHM.

So, according to your logic, SMN is over-powered because,
Clear Mind V:
Summoner Level 70
Black Mage Level 75
Scholar Level 76
White Mage Level 80

Take a look. White Mage gets Clear Mind V last out of all the jobs, before level 76-80 they weren't even considered. Black Mage DOES have access to spells like Aspir and Aspir II, so again, that makes BLM over-powered, just like Summoner.

I do agree that MNK & WHM can run just about everything duo without anyone else. I know this for a fact because my buddy (MNK) and I (WHM) do just that.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

So, according to your logic, SMN is over-powered because,
Clear Mind V:
Summoner Level 70
Black Mage Level 75
Scholar Level 76
White Mage Level 80

Take a look. White Mage gets Clear Mind V last out of all the jobs, before level 76-80 they weren't even considered. Black Mage DOES have access to spells like Aspir and Aspir II, so again, that makes BLM over-powered, just like Summoner.

I do agree that MNK & WHM can run just about everything duo without anyone else. I know this for a fact because my buddy (MNK) and I (WHM) do just that.

No, they are not.

Lord almighty. Summoner gets auto-refresh because they can't rest/heal like WHM can.

Whether they got Clear Mind V before the cap or not is irrelevant, as they have it now, and before that they'd have had IV so still would heal a lot of MP, and they'd have the time to rest/heal.

Lowman you can rest/heal, and in a party situation you'd have a RDM, BRD or COR giving you Refresh so there is no need whatsoever to NOT include that and equipment, unless you suddenly want to WHM naked.

WHM does not need auto-refresh or a method to give it to themselves when whether you like it or not, they have subjobs to do it. You're never going to be "whm/no subjob" EVER. So taking a subjob out of the equation is like taking job abilities, or traits out, only difference is outside of some occasions NOTHING can remove subjobs, like amnesia can remove abilities.

You genuinely need to stop the Natural crap, who the hell cares, you're going to have a subjob, and you're going to have equipment. This is how the game works, RDM gets Refresh I and II, and have to pay/hunt to learn it, like you pay to use equipment. By that logic RDM doesn't get Refresh "naturally." So they therefore should as well.