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    Player Wolfe's Avatar
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    Wolfemasters
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmie View Post
    I think I understand what Wolfe is saying and I agree with him. WHM hasn't recieved any great attributes in comparison to many of the other jobs, I don't think he's arguing the subjob enhancements. What I see is that Spells and Attributes that could normally fall under a healer's category were effectively disbursed to a number of new jobs created by the updates, rendering WHM relatively non-essential in the game. I can't believe that any WHM wouldn't want Auto-Refresh, or Hastega for that matter. Other jobs recieved them, why not the basic healer? ...From what I read, that's all that Wolfe asked, and all he got back was how wonderful you all are.
    Thank you for seeing my point. I find it to be amazing that there are so few people who actually get what I was saying. All they see is, "screw WHM refresh, you don't need it."
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    Player Khajit's Avatar
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    Whm doesn't need the refresh and even if they did need it we could *gasp* just get help from a job that actually can refresh in a game based on teamwork.
    Plus there's the actual refresh gear i notice alot of people don't bother getting even though half that amount a year ago was enough to incite a blood frenzied fight among every mage in sight over the drops.
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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    Whm doesn't need the refresh and even if they did need it we could *gasp* just get help from a job that actually can refresh in a game based on teamwork.
    On the rare occasion that I do sub the affore mentioned job over SCH(Which is superior BTW.), I never remember to cast refresh on myself anyway.
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    Player Khajit's Avatar
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    I didn't mean changing sj. Been up a bit too late?(It would be a fair guess that my timezone is ahead of yours and this is really late at night for you)
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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    I didn't mean changing sj. Been up a bit too late?(It would be a fair guess that my timezone is ahead of yours and this is really late at night for you)
    It was mearly a statement of; That if I did have refresh, it would almost never be used.
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    Player Khajit's Avatar
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    That part was kinda covered in the "even if they did need it" part of my initial statement.
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    Player Khajit's Avatar
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    Get this Anti DD whm sacrilege out of here. You obviously just suck at it if you cant outDDanything as whm if this point in the game.
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    Player Ahtos's Avatar
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    Most WHM's should learn how to conserve MP in the first place b4 QQ about auto-refesh. DRK and BLM got no auto-refresh too and aspir as refresh is a joke cuz recast timer, possible resist and most important thing: not every mob got a MP pool. Sure it would be nice if every mage got auto-refresh but it isn´t really necessary.
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    Player Retsujo's Avatar
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    Retsujo
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    hMP gear is where it's at. Where the hell are my hMP Dark Staff Trials, SE?

    I don't understand why the guy thinks Cure VI is useless. It heals a crap ton, has maybe Cure III enmity, and while Solace is up can apply up to a 400HP Stoneskin or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retsujo View Post
    I don't understand why the guy thinks Cure VI is useless. It heals a crap ton, has maybe Cure III enmity, and while Solace is up can apply up to a 400HP Stoneskin or so.
    I don't know either. It does have a bad hp:mp ratio compared to cure5, but it's great having a 2nd big cure to alternate with cure5.

    Also my opinion is that the devs understood the lack of refresh, and decided that the empyrean legs were a unique way for whms to conserve their mp, instead of giving them a generic auto-refresh.
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    Last edited by Nacht; 03-21-2011 at 04:35 PM.

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