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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarice View Post
    Outside of Abyssea, you sub Scholar, you keep Sublimation up, you downgrade from Cure V and VI to Cure III and Cure IV (using Penury if you absolutely must use Cure V; never use Cure VI).
    Why would you stop using Cure5? Cure 3/5 were the 2 preferred cures pre-abyssea and I don't see why they won't be the preferred ones post-abyssea. It's more mp efficient than any other cure.
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    Player Alkimi's Avatar
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    Alkimi
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    WHM Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Avarice View Post
    Outside of Abyssea, you sub Scholar, you keep Sublimation up, you downgrade from Cure V and VI to Cure III and Cure IV (using Penury if you absolutely must use Cure V; never use Cure VI).
    No reason to 'downgrade' anything.

    Assuming you have +2 pants and capped potency (which every whm should have or be working towards) and cure for the full amount:

    Cure III = 28MP
    Cure IV = 50MP
    Cure V = 67MP
    Cure V (with Penury) = 2MP
    Cure VI = 130MP
    Cure VI (with Penury) = 39MP

    The difference between cost of Cure 4 and 5 and the amount they heal mean it's rarely worth it, especially if you're gonna have issues with enmity. I'd just stick to 3 and 5, maybe use 6 at a push but only with Penury active.
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    Player Kiroko's Avatar
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    Kiroko
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    WHM Lv 95
    Thank you for posting this! Very valid arguments and being a whm for a few years now, I would love to see us having a refresh of our own.
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    Player Andevom's Avatar
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    I see this as saying "Why can't every melee job get Utsusemi?" Give WHM a Refresh, and you make RDM suffer in the process. Allowing the abilities RDM gets (Refresh AND Convert) through subbing already makes WHM/RDM on a more attractive option than a RDM. Why increase the blow even further? Because you want to sub a different mage job on your WHM? Sorry, you just can't have the perks from everything.
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    You are staring at this.

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    Player Hoshi's Avatar
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    Hoshiku
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    Asura
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    RNG Lv 99
    1 tic of autorefresh just isn't that helpful. It's why /smn never did much for anyone once tanks started using utsusemi and no longer needed garuda blink. If you're looking to adjust/strengthen WHM there are probably better places to start.
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    Player Simian's Avatar
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    Are we still driving this into the ground?

    Have we not yet agreed that WHM has no "natural" refresh already?
    As to the OP's original question, only the development team can answer why. the rest of us can only guess.

    good night thread
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    90 WHM, RDM
    85 WAR

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    Player Avarice's Avatar
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    Minikai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simian View Post
    Are we still driving this into the ground?

    Have we not yet agreed that WHM has no "natural" refresh already?
    As to the OP's original question, only the development team can answer why. the rest of us can only guess.

    good night thread
    Reading is hard.
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    Player Kaych's Avatar
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    Kaych
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    SMN Lv 99
    I never use cure IV^^ I dont really like to tank as WHM^_- I'll leave that to RDMs and PLDs
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    Its sometimes best to agree to disagree ^_-
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    "/sigh factor" is when:
    - You are asked to set your HP when you already have your HP set the place you exit. O.o?
    - You need to repeat a quest a 100 times in order to cap your fame >_>

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    Player Vortex's Avatar
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    Mystina
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    RNG Lv 99
    Inside Abyssea : Cure V, VI
    Outside Cure 3-5
    You need to actually be smart at WHM to effectivly use Cure 4, it's very MP effeicent if you put more -Enimity in it then other cures, it's used for when you don't have enough MP to warrent a Cure V but cure 3 will not be enough. Never once have i grabed hate using cure IV when i needed, unless the tank was just incredibly dumb.
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