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  1. #41
    Player Zackan's Avatar
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    This reminds of lvl 75 av without the cheating debates
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  2. #42
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    An annoying factor of Nyzul is that double Embrava is almost absolute minimum. GG making another event where jobs are bottlenecked further.
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  3. #43
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelduh View Post
    I've been reading all of the main FFXI Community Boards, and many people are extremely excited to use illegal third party tools to gain an unfair advantage over other players by being able to use these tools to circumvent the mechanics that were intended for Nyzul Isle. Please implement a countermeasure change of some sort that will prevent players from utilizing this exploit to their advantage and hurting other players as well as disrupting the balance of the game. Thank you.
    Here's a better idea. How about design the assault in such a way that such third party tools wouldn't be viewed as necessary?
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    An annoying factor of Nyzul is that double Embrava is almost absolute minimum. GG making another event where jobs are bottlenecked further.
    Bullcrap spread by BG losers really. Would be the case if 100% of nyzul was fighting, problem is , 75% of nyzul is running. Therefore cheating helps a lot :P more that embrava (that barely helps).
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    BLU is also extremely necessary for stupidly difficult NM's like this: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Abject_Kharoub

    The second we engaged it we all ate a 1600 Tourbillion then he started picking people off with Thunderbolt and Bloodrake. Took multiple 2hrs to kill this thing, was harder than floor 100 boss. THis NM is also a gigantic time waster: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Nukku
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    BLU is also extremely necessary for stupidly difficult NM's like this: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Abject_Kharoub

    The second we engaged it we all ate a 1600 Tourbillion then he started picking people off with Thunderbolt and Bloodrake. Took multiple 2hrs to kill this thing, was harder than floor 100 boss. THis NM is also a gigantic time waster: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Nukku
    I have yet to use a BLU for NI:2 and have never needed one. Double embrava is the only must have. Yes it can be done without it but nothing makes a bigger difference. With 4 good DDs embrava and haste that NM dies in less than 15 seconds. Take a DRK if you need stuns. Stun and Weapon bash will get you through pretty much anything if you are killing fast enough.
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    I dont mind the 3rd party users so long as they use them and then go away to leave the rest of us to do it the right way. They are the ones that will get burnt out off the game because they dont take time to enjoy it to its full extent. I dont care what other people have, I assume they all cheated if they get it the first week of release or that they just dont have any social life in real life....I play the game to enjoy it, not to crow like a hen says im better than you because I have it first or I am first in x. If you dont enjoy the game and just want to rush it to completion then why play it at all.......
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  8. #48
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    People cheat when the content is almost impossible to beat without it. And people prefer certain jobs when it is obvious they give you massive advantages over other jobs. I call it that the developer did not do enough balancing of the contents and create a rushed half baked creation. I have a feeling they are doing their very best to stall us with contents that are impossible to beat so that they can string us along for another 6-9 months. So far they are doing very minimal adjustments for the neo nyzul, void watch and legion, and just giving us promises after promises. This anniversary thing better be beyond amazing - otherwise this year is going to be very disappointing with lackluster contents and the bare minimal efforts from developer to address player's feedback and suggestion. I call it now - nothing good will come this year - since it is very clear that SE is not giving the FFXI team any more funds to expand the current team members to address all the various problems that need to be resolved. Just kill the FF14 version 2.0 now, put your money on the project that actually bring you money and please give the FFXI more budget.
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  9. #49
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    Would like to see a response either take away the need for third party tools or by banning and monitoring. I like Nyzul isle. I want to get to floor 100 using xbox 360 its possible i know it is, can you imagine the feeling of getting there legit?
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    If they'd address the order lamps being completely stupid and a total waste of time with the order figuring out and the 30s cooldown on failed attempt, people would actually be able to beat this with a little luck.

    And unfortunately those lamps are not even a problem for the folks cheating, so what's the point of having them in the first place if they're not truly randomized?

    Is there a reason why every lamp floor can't have an optional objective to clear the floor instead if the devs refuse to make the order-lamps less asinine?
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    Last edited by Kaisha; 04-25-2012 at 10:58 AM.

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