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    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Yeah, there's no way to like hack the lamps to auto-clear you or anything like that. It's just speed-enhancing stuff at the core, which is what it will probably take to hit 80+ within the time limit with any real regularity unless something is found. You still have to fight all the monsters, clear all the objectives, etc, you just do it faster.

    Oh it's still cheating, I just wanted to clarify since it seemed like a lot of people were misunderstanding the intentionally-vague OP to mean something else.
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    I will have my revenge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    The best way to avoid people resorting to hacking, is to add content that doesn't require it, not content that basically demands you hack to get anywhere.
    Some people will still try to find a shortcut, whether it seems to require it or not. Back when Hagun went for several million, people would use datswaps in order to make the ENM easier to complete. It wasn't impossible to win with a regular group, but people still found an excuse to cheat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xantavia View Post
    Some people will still try to find a shortcut, whether it seems to require it or not. Back when Hagun went for several million, people would use datswaps in order to make the ENM easier to complete. It wasn't impossible to win with a regular group, but people still found an excuse to cheat.
    But in your story, none-cheaters could also win. In new Nyzul.... no one wins, but the cheaters will get a lot closer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Yeah, there's no way to like hack the lamps to auto-clear you or anything like that.
    while auto-clearing the lamps isnt possible, what used to be possible, and may still be, is using certain map tools that if the lamp floors were specific order, a number would show up on the map tool next to the lamp, with this number signifying its place in the lamp order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novowels View Post
    while auto-clearing the lamps isnt possible, what used to be possible, and may still be, is using certain map tools that if the lamp floors were specific order, a number would show up on the map tool next to the lamp, with this number signifying its place in the lamp order.
    that's barely worth it though, you'd have to be a complete dunce to not figure out an "order" floor within a min
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    I just want to point out that someone fleetooling to get NeoNyzul done does hurt others: SE see's floor100 drops being created, despite the fact it was only made possible by cheating, therefor theres no problem on their end.

    Similarly with the Salvage bans and why alex requirements are still 30k: Groups would triple drops from the bosses, so instead of 4 cotton purses and maybe 1 linen, you're getting 12 cotton purses and maybe 3 linen. So the amount of alex per run jumps from 100 to 300.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    I just want to point out that someone fleetooling to get NeoNyzul done does hurt others: SE see's floor100 drops being created, despite the fact it was only made possible by cheating, therefor theres no problem on their end.

    Similarly with the Salvage bans and why alex requirements are still 30k: Groups would triple drops from the bosses, so instead of 4 cotton purses and maybe 1 linen, you're getting 12 cotton purses and maybe 3 linen. So the amount of alex per run jumps from 100 to 300.
    Salvage bans were more than 2 years ago, if se gave a shit it would have been adjusted a long time ago.
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    Player Nynja's Avatar
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    We know SE doesnt give a shit...doesnt change the fact that people cheating through an event directly hurts others because SE's going to see that people are completing said content and anyone saying "its fkn impossible" will be met by "well these guys did it".
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    Pretty sure no one has even gotten to 100 with said cheats. Every thread the past month is the same, pointless mostly said for a few remarks, including this pointless reply.
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    all i see in this post is people crying about something that has 0 effect on them what so ever. your not compete for pops your not trying to beat someone else for a better reward. so just shut up its like old nyzul isle get over it your small group is in their alone what another group does wont effect you.
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