Nyzul Isle Uncharted information and feedback

[Atoreis]

If your group has 100% success rate on clearing floors (this would be the 100% DA rate), you still have 90% chance that the RNG will screw you (90% chance that DA will not proc).

On a side note, your original analogy about DA was dumb to begin with, and I never should have elaborated on it.

Its not stupid you just havent understood it maybe.
Let me make it more clear.

Double attack is lucky based function in this game but by adding more % it happens more often.
You can look at floors you can clear on avg like you look at % of double attack.
You still need luck to reach 100 but adding more floors you can clear on avg make reaching 100 to happen more often.

Your analogy is ironically perfect view of old Nyzul Isle when you was able to reach boss floor 100% of the time but RNG of drop rate would screw you 90% of the time. Except if they will go this route in new nyzul drop rate would be around 1% considering how good are those pieces.

[hiko]

If your group has 100% success rate on clearing floors (this would be the 100% DA rate), you still have 90% chance that the RNG will screw you (90% chance that DA will not proc).

On a side note, your original analogy about DA was dumb to begin with, and I never should have elaborated on it.

if groupA as 100 succes rate on clearing anyfloor 10sec faster than group B, group A need less luck (lower RNG ???) than group B=> skill matter

[Kristal]

Luck = Skill.

the end.

No, it's [Luck * Skill]. If you are lucky you need less skill, but if you are skillfull you need less luck.

More complex: [(Luck+Cheat) * Skill * Karma], where you can boost your luck by cheating, but karma might kick in when a meteor falls on your house. Those pesky meteors always ruin it for all of us...

[FrankReynolds]

if groupA as 100 succes rate on clearing anyfloor 10sec faster than group B, group A need less luck (lower RNG ???) than group B=> skill matter

Here's the problem. At the end of the day i'ts still 90% luck, so group A can clear shit faster all day, and not see a higher floor than group B for weeks / months. That is dumb.

[hiko]

No, it's [Luck * Skill]. If you are lucky you need less skill, but if you are skillfull you need less luck.

More complex: [(Luck+Cheat) * Skill * Karma], where you can boost your luck by cheating, but karma might kick in when a meteor falls on your house. Those pesky meteors always ruin it for all of us...

it's more luck*(skill+cheat)*karma

Here's the problem. At the end of the day i'ts still 90% luck, so group A can clear shit faster all day, and not see a higher floor than group B for weeks / months. That is dumb.

groupA will average higher than groupB

if group B was more skilled they'd reach a higher floor than they did!

[FrankReynolds]

it's more luck*(skill+cheat)*karma



groupA will average higher than groupB

if group B was more skilled they'd reach a higher floor than they did!

Group A clears 20 floors, and gets 2-5 at every ???.

Group B clears 12 floors and gets 9 at every ???.

Group B is clearly far more skilled yeah?

this scenario can repeat itself hundreds of times. Luck is fun.

[Scribble]

Ppl still arguing because you are completely ignorant. You make it looks completely lucky based when its not. You need to clear at least 12 floors to beat 100 floor which is enough to block bad players. Being better and clearing more floors greatly increases your avg chance of reaching 100.

Chance. Better known as LUCK! I didn't ignore what you wrote. If you yourself weren't so ignorant you'd have noticed that the rest of my response was aimed at the person I quoted. The only thing I would point out to you is that there have been suggestions made. Regardless of that, their original implementation of Nyzul was better. Just because you might not agree doesn't make other's opinions ignorant.

[Byrth]

Group A clears 20 floors, and gets 2-5 at every ???.

Group B clears 12 floors and gets 9 at every ???.

Group B is clearly far more skilled yeah?

Doing well so far...

this scenario can repeat itself hundreds of times. Luck is fun.

Whoops! If you draw sets of independent samples (like floor jumps) from an even distribution (flat like the 2~9 RNG), the mean of the independent sample sets falls into a symmetric distribution about the mean of the population with sufficiently high N. So no, while it is theoretically possible for the scenario to repeat itself hundreds of times, it is incredibly unlikely. Actually, the odds of getting 12 consecutive 9-jumps even once is very very low. (1/8^12 = 1/68719476736) However, that would put you at floor 9, so I'm assuming it was actually 11 consecutive 9-jumps and boss (1/8^11 = 8589934592).

If two groups have comparable and sufficient sample size, they should see floor 100 at a rate that is mostly determined by how many floors they can clear in 30 minutes. The random number generator is just a distractor designed to frustrate good groups and sometimes smile on weaker groups.

[Fupafighter]

It will not take 1 year to get an item...maybe it will take YOU 1 year lol...but not us. Because we actually motivate ourselves to get stuff instead of sitting here complaining about how it's so impossible. STFU lol

[FrankReynolds]

It will not take 1 year to get an item...maybe it will take YOU 1 year lol...but not us. Because we actually motivate ourselves to get stuff instead of sitting here complaining about how it's so impossible. STFU lol

lol its a 30 minute event that can only be done once per day. I have 23:30 to sit here and talk about just how dumb you are for thinking that you are any more proficient at nyzul isle than I am. Where is your floor 100 gear? you should have it all by now right? Have you even made it to 100?