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    Player Cowardlybabooon's Avatar
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    Yeah this is awesome. Don't listen to lazy people. Some of this armor is the best in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Except 1 piece per 4.5days is not salvage like its much better. Not to mention you get exactly what you want when in many events you are capped at for example 4 of 5 pieces and can go months w/o getting one (My friend was 1/97 for Usukane 35 body for example and e was I think one of the 3 ppl to get one so 4th person would probably need to wait a year and it was 100min per day not 30 min per day). 25 is really good number imo.
    Why would Nyzul Island be as hard as salvage? I think your in the wrong thread. This is about Nyzul Island. In old Nyzul, you could complete all the sets in a few weeks if you were lucky. 1 year seems like a big jump in difficulty to me. Wouldn't it make more sense to make Salvage as hard as Salvage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Wouldn't it make more sense...
    There's your problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Why would Nyzul Island be as hard as salvage? I think your in the wrong thread. This is about Nyzul Island. In old Nyzul, you could complete all the sets in a few weeks if you were lucky. 1 year seems like a big jump in difficulty to me. Wouldn't it make more sense to make Salvage as hard as Salvage?
    Really? You could make 3 full sets for 6 ppl in few weeks? All right lets check it:

    6*3*5= Thats 90 days of 100% drop of what you want at every single run.
    Drop rate was more like 50% with TH so thats 180 days. Now the best part. 5ppl got askar body and you need one more for last person. You have 16,6% to get one. All that and your 3 full sets for 6 ppl in few weeks is actually something like 250 days+ Now lets recall how good were nyzul items at 75 compered to how good are items from neonyzul at 99. Exactly.
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    SE does realize that we're still restricted by the 1 tag per day restriction, right? So at least 25 days for 1 piece of gear, barring any fails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukiumi View Post
    SE does realize that we're still restricted by the 1 tag per day restriction, right? So at least 25 days for 1 piece of gear, barring any fails.
    6 Six sześć gjashtë šest seis sechs шесть altı pieces of gear not one.

    Its really that hard to understand?
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Really? You could make 3 full sets for 6 ppl in few weeks? All right lets check it:

    6*3*5=
    This is where you went wrong. Shouting for 5 other people who are after the same piece of gear as you is dumb.

    It's neat that you are looking at this from the developers point of view for some reason, but I don't care how many pieces are awarded in X amount of time. I only care how long it takes to get mine. In old nyzul, you shouted for people who didn't need the item you needed. You were not obligated to help them for the rest of their lives to get the same piece you just got. In the old one you purposely teamed up with people who needed different gear from you. In new nyzul you team with people who need the same stuff. The amount of time it takes to get the gear still has nothing to do with how many people need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    This is where you went wrong. Shouting for 5 other people who are after the same piece of gear as you is dumb.

    It's neat that you are looking at this from the developers point of view for some reason, but I don't care how many pieces are awarded in X amount of time. I only care how long it takes to get mine. In old nyzul, you shouted for people who didn't need the item you needed. You were not obligated to help them for the rest of their lives to get the same piece you just got. In the old one you purposely teamed up with people who needed different gear from you. In new nyzul you team with people who need the same stuff. The amount of time it takes to get the gear still has nothing to do with how many people need it.
    Yeah cool and what? you shouted for those ppl and what? You had 8% chance to get your item. One item per 12 runs. 180 runs to get 3 sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Really? You could make 3 full sets for 6 ppl in few weeks? All right lets check it:

    6*3*5= Thats 90 days of 100% drop of what you want at every single run.
    Drop rate was more like 50% with TH so thats 180 days. Now the best part. 5ppl got askar body and you need one more for last person. You have 16,6% to get one. All that and your 3 full sets for 6 ppl in few weeks is actually something like 250 days+ Now lets recall how good were nyzul items at 75 compered to how good are items from neonyzul at 99. Exactly.
    OMG not the numbers. The 25 win's extent's the content longer for those interested in completing set's or obtaining the gear. Can't we just keep it at that and not derail the conversation with number's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    In the event that you are able to defeat a specific boss floor 25 times (or more), instead of receiving one of the possible items from that corresponding boss, you will be able to receive a more powerful version of that item.

    For example, if you were to defeat the floor 20 notorious monster 25 times, you would be able to receive one of the floor 40 items. However, for floor 100 you will be able to select one of the floor 100 items by defeating the notorious monster found there. 
    So you need to defeat the 20 boss a total of 25 times for level 40 gear, the 40 boss 25 times for level 60 gear...

    People already have the math worked out that they'll have a full set(I'm assuming HQ) in just over 4 months barring failure, but that would require clearing floor 80 a total of 125 times without fail. Ok, sure.

    On the other hand, people who are able to clear floor 100 would have a full set inside a week? Two days if they started with tags in reserve?

    It seems like a bit of a gap to me.
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    Maybe it's just me but this seems a bit, hmm... whats the word? Balanced? I can't wait for Salvage. Could someone tell me how to turn off this sarcasm font?
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