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    Player Mirabelle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomanni View Post
    when we go again i sure will:P
    And please let us know what hacks/cheats you had going as well, so the rest of us mortals can get our "decent setup" right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomanni View Post
    4 runs mnk mnk brd whm war sam highest floor got was 98 timing out on that floor, so i dont see why ppl are complaining about oo i cant get up higher floors take a decent setup an dont suck youll get higher floors.

    x2 pouches about 200 total Alexandrite


    sad thing is ppl want everything now right then, if u got everything like that you will get bored.


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    Actually your completly missing the point. It's not 'I want everything - right now' it's the feeling of 'advancment'. This new system lacks any itemization as everything is random and luck based. No skill / time commitment / effort / etc will generate better results(for the most part). No feeling of advancement is what irritates players and why this system is complete garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomanni View Post
    4 runs mnk mnk brd whm war sam highest floor got was 98 timing out on that floor, so i dont see why ppl are complaining about oo i cant get up higher floors take a decent setup an dont suck youll get higher floors.

    x2 pouches about 200 total Alexandrite


    sad thing is ppl want everything now right then, if u got everything like that you will get bored.


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    Summary i got lucky and still got no gear

    as a side note 200 alex isn't what we care about either way com back when you have 2-5 peices and +3 or HQ to prove us wrong.

    As a side note you still had to clear 98 and kill the 100 boss so really wasn't near when ya timed out on 98 getting to 98 is about the same amount of effort as hitting 80 and clearing which we already said is possible but only 1%-2% of the time with the best group all pimped out.

    Unless you found a way to get 7-9 jumps over and over then it really hasn't changed the point of this topic.

    As it is atm the best groups

    Can hit and kill boss 20 or 40, 60-80% of the time (they may choose to skip past it but if that was there aim it's v..easy to do)
    Can hit 60 and kill boss like 20% of the time
    Hit 80 and kill like 1-2 % of the time
    Hit 100 and kill <1% of the time.

    Really imo it should be

    If you perform well you should be able to hit 60 60-80% of the time (this should be based more on skil that luck meaning if ya get bad floors you will still get to 60 as long as your group is doing it right

    Then 80 30-40% of time (1 in 3 runs)

    the 100 say 10-20% of the time (1 in 5-10 run)
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    Last edited by Rezeak; 02-17-2012 at 09:25 AM.
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    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomanni View Post
    4 runs mnk mnk brd whm war sam highest floor got was 98 timing out on that floor, so i dont see why ppl are complaining about oo i cant get up higher floors take a decent setup an dont suck youll get higher floors.

    x2 pouches about 200 total Alexandrite


    sad thing is ppl want everything now right then, if u got everything like that you will get bored.


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    If I had your luck, I'd be at the nearest large-scale gambling establishment right now rather than posting on a message board about FFXI.

    Actually, with that kind of luck, the casinos of man would not suffice for me. I'd be attempting to evoke a demon so I could bet my soul in an attempt to win a haunted army tank made out of gold and diamonds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomanni View Post
    4 runs mnk mnk brd whm war sam highest floor got was 98 timing out on that floor, so i dont see why ppl are complaining about oo i cant get up higher floors take a decent setup an dont suck youll get higher floors.

    x2 pouches about 200 total Alexandrite


    sad thing is ppl want everything now right then, if u got everything like that you will get bored.


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    Congratulations on your luck and clear fundamental grasp of Statistics and probability. O_O

    I mean, We know getting to 100 Is possible, Its just that it relies on dumb luck. You reaching 98 and timing out means absolutely nothing except you got really really lucky. You didn't even bother bringing a Thief for drops, So in essence, You gave up drop rates for zerg speed just for the chance of reaching 100.

    My group had a decent set up, Relics/Empyreans as far as the eye could see, highest we saw was floor 70. Does that mean we suck? No. Its called a Random Number Generator.

    Thats the sole complaint. The Event has no progression at all and relies on a random number generator to keep us busy.

    *edit:* Also, My Nyzul set up was THF(Mandau) WAR(Ukkon) MNK(Vereth), BLU(Almace), WHM, BRD (At one point the BLU left and we had a Kannagi NIN). All of them smart people, Played for a long time, Knew what they were doing, Good to top geared... Its just an Event that relies too heavily on luck.

    We manage to kill Floor 60 boss and get Euxine Nails +2, but outside of that run (Ending on floor ~70) we couldnt get about 50, At one point, We went up 15 Times, Getting mostly 2's and 3's, and a 4 or so in there.

    So no, As the many above me as sad, We're not looking for "I WANT IT NOW", As byrth(Ithink?) Asked just after the Dev comment, We want to know if there is some secret. Don't tell us the secret, We'll find it out ourselves, But we want to know if one exists, Or we really are looking at an entirely luck based event.

    Thats all!
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 02-17-2012 at 09:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomanni View Post
    4 runs mnk mnk brd whm war sam highest floor got was 98 timing out on that floor, so i dont see why ppl are complaining about oo i cant get up higher floors take a decent setup an dont suck youll get higher floors.

    x2 pouches about 200 total Alexandrite


    sad thing is ppl want everything now right then, if u got everything like that you will get bored.


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    Try get there again w/o cAhPeRaDtAR and cCLhIePPaEtR, GL w/ that.
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    i would like to suggest SE add a drop to n.ilse

    Runic oil Rare/ex (so 1 per person can carry it)

    What it does :
    On completion of a floor it takes you up 16-24 floors when traded

    Where it drops
    It should drop off the lvl 20/40/60/80 bosses 50% of the time (before TH) and off normal NMs 10% of the time

    This would pretty much fix N.Isle and add a little bonus for going out ya way to kill NMs espically the 20/40 bosses ^^

    (if this gets enough likes could you please pass this idea to the dev team)
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    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    It was clever of you to say 98 instead of 99. That way it does't sound as much like a lie.
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    Don't worry about it Starry. He's lying anyway. Trolls will be trolls. If he had completed a floor as high as 98, he wouldn't have posted "I don't know what you're all complaining about".
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    BLU owns house in Nyzul. I'll second that. Even a BLU with a half-ass gear set decimates mobs in Nyzul.
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